Statistically, they deserve a better fate. These results are usually a comedy of errors or bad luck, of which the coaching staff can only do so much. There's a big difference between being winless and completely out of games vs being winless and being in almost every game until something goes horribly wrong. If the team had trapped their way to one or two wins but got blown the **** out in the other games like in previous seasons I wouldn't suddenly feel great about the team.
Feeling in the dumps is for teams like the Rangers or Montreal, teams that haven't changed much and have legit playoff aspirations but nothing to show for it.
I will take my doubly entertaining team and enjoy it, even in the losses. I'm not passing final judgment until they get stable goaltending and Chychrun back. If they're poopy then, by all means riot in the streets.
well saidVegas players underwent even more change and they have played far better than our team. My beef is that the players are skating around and suddenly have no idea where they are supposed to be, who or where they are supposed to cover, and who and how to outlet a pass. These are coaching issues. Tocchet just hasn't been able to get the team to buy into his system. The team plays very fast and very stupid.
I'm a Canucks season ticket holder and exactly what you're talking about, a middling team with no talent that grinds out the odd wins and you walk away not remembering the game an hour after you left....no one wants that.Chychrun is not the second coming of McGinnis. Raanta is not the second coming of Patrick Roy.
Entertainment means not leaving a game each and every time disappointed with a loss.
Perhaps they could win just a few ugly, boring games, as a special favor to me? Then they could go back to losing time and again by playing "exciting hockey."
Vegas players underwent even more change and they have played far better than our team. My beef is that the players are skating around and suddenly have no idea where they are supposed to be, who or where they are supposed to cover, and who and how to outlet a pass. These are coaching issues. Tocchet just hasn't been able to get the team to buy into his system. The team plays very fast and very stupid.
Heaven knows we saw none of that in the past 246 games in which we managed only 89 wins. This is a HUGE step back!
Nine games under Tocchet has made the team unwatchable. You regret having STs, and everything was so much better last year which started 2-6-0 and later had its own nine game losing streak amidst a 3-12-4 stretch spanning late November to early January. How we pine for those glory days after being subjected to these past nine games of decent hockey under the worst staff ever. This nine game stretch is finally where we draw the line.
Am I getting the narrative you guys are pushing?
Please...... just stop comparing the Coyotes to Vegas.
Vegas doesn't have the baggage of a history of bad teams, bad ownership and an annual relocation discussion spread out in the media.
So, we shouldn't hold Tocchet responsible with this stuff going on? Many held Tippett responsible despite this stuff.Please...... just stop comparing the Coyotes to Vegas.
Vegas doesn't have the baggage of a history of bad teams, bad ownership and an annual relocation discussion spread out in the media.
So, we shouldn't hold Tocchet responsible with this stuff going on? Many held Tippett responsible despite this stuff.
I'm not really bothered by the losing seeing the team didn't have high expectations to begin the season with. I'm more concerned about how the young are doing.
The team plays very fast and very stupid.
Please...... just stop comparing the Coyotes to Vegas.
Vegas doesn't have the baggage of a history of bad teams, bad ownership and an annual relocation discussion spread out in the media.
Overall, though, I'm still not seeing any semblance of a system in place at either end of the ice. No one seems to have any sort of assignment, nor any clue where anyone else is supposed to be. It's why there have been so many blown assignments in the defensive zone and so many turnovers at both ends. It's why only the guys with really high end hockey sense (really just Keller and Domi) are making things happen offensively. I always felt the rigidness of Tippett's system was overstated anyway, but you need some kind of structure out there, and 9 games in, I'm not seeing any progress on that front.
The games are more exciting because they're playing at a higher pace, but that's of little value in the abstract. It's not going to win you more games on its own, and I'm worried that if conditioning is already an issue, how is this team going to look in February after a few more months playing at this tempo?
Wasn't this basically the report on Tocchet? That he is a good player's coach, good motivator and gets them skating hard, but is lacking a lot what comes to properly implementing and teaching system and structure.
So, we shouldn't hold Tocchet responsible with this stuff going on? Many held Tippett responsible despite this stuff.
Remember what guys like Derek Morris said about Wayne Gretzky as a coach? I'm starting to wonder if Tocchet is coaching the same way - just at a faster pace.
Tocchet has his own form of incompetence.Aside from not commuting to practices from LA?? Or hiring former pals to fill the coaching staff?
Heaven knows we saw none of that in the past 246 games in which we managed only 89 wins. This is a HUGE step back!
Nine games under Tocchet has made the team unwatchable. You regret having STs, and everything was so much better last year which started 2-6-0 and later had its own nine game losing streak amidst a 3-12-4 stretch spanning late November to early January. How we pine for those glory days after being subjected to these past nine games of decent hockey under the worst staff ever. This nine game stretch is finally where we draw the line.
Am I getting the narrative you guys are pushing?
The longest winless streak is 30 games by the 1980-81 Winnipeg Jets. That's before OT wins/losses. So we had a few ties during that streak.The coach is always accountable. At some point the coach should be fired if for no other reason than change for the sake of change. When, of course, is open to much debate. I looked it up...longest NHL losing streak was the 92-93 Sharks at 17 games. Longest losing streak to start a season is 11 games by the 43-44 Rangers. We are getting close.
A lot depends on ownership and GM expectations for the season.