Value of: Galchenyuk (Blowout Edition)
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Legend123
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I expect it to be in the 14-23 range with an outside shot at being 5 picks higher or lower depending on injuries and the playoffs (top4 teams in the playoffs pick 28-31 regardless of their regular season performance).
People are underestimating Duchene if they don't believe that swapping him for Galchenyuk wouldnt significantly improve the Habs.
Look at how well he is doing with Yakupov and especially a very lite version of Drouin in Kerfoot right now..
Duchene always has excelled with these high IQ playmaking kind of wingers (Fleischmann, Mueller, Tanguay and PAP before they got washed up) while he has rather struggled with the shoot first type of wingers in Landeskog and the washed up corpse of Iginla..
You might not agree with me that Duchene is the clearly superior player but you atleast should agree with me that he is the way better fit for the Habs...
IMO Drouin won't work for you guys at center. But he would be dynamite on a line with Duchene and a more defensively solid winger with some skill (Lehkonen anyone?).
I also think that Pacioretty - Danault - Hudon could work. Hudon is obviously no Radulov but I like his skillset enough to believe that the line could atleast be a pretty solid 2nd line that allows Pacioretty to put up his usual 25-30 goals...
Still also have Gallagher, Shaw, Plekanec, Byron, etc who are not that bad when it comes to providing forward depth.
IMO a healthy Weber, Price, Duchene and Drouin will be good enough to keep you in the playoff hunt till the last week of the season.
Depending on Price and what Bergevin could do at the deadline to strengthen their D, you could even win a few rounds in the playoffs..
So yeah. If I would believe that your pick will be a top 10 pick, I obviously should take Galchenyuk + 1st for Duchene.
But that seems unrealistic.
It will be closer to the 20 range probably.
And thats why I would demand another big piece as well.
Ultimately I just don't think the Habs and Avs will be able to get anything done. Not good trading partners...
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At what point is it not the coaches fault? I mean the kid is on his second head coach in the NHL and its the same story all over again.
Also 65-70 points would be awesome if he also played well in his own zone but he doesnt, in fact he is basically a pilon.
We got Meier and some mid-range prospects too. But Hertl for Galchenyuk isn't bad for either team.
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From Chicago, the only person I can see working out would be Anisimov.
So it would have to be Anisimov +, but I doubt the + would be any of the young talent so I don't see a fit
So it would have to be Anisimov +, but I doubt the + would be any of the young talent so I don't see a fit
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Montreal would be foolish to sell low on him - if they’re planning on trading him, throw him on the first line to drive the price up.
I would like Rask, but we all know that Chucky will become an offensive somewhere else. I would ask for a bigger deal, trying to add Jake Bean for our need.... but if Bergie he'll try to waste asset to add a Quebecers in Gauthier.
Maybe something like Chucky + Juulsen + 3rd vs Rask + Bean + Roy
Still not sure about it... When think about that, if we trade Chucky, we'll be officially screwed for a long time.
Maybe something like Chucky + Juulsen + 3rd vs Rask + Bean + Roy
Still not sure about it... When think about that, if we trade Chucky, we'll be officially screwed for a long time.
Duchene for Galchenyuk and a 1st round pick seems to make sense.
Both are over rated and on the outs with their respective teams so why not try switching it up.
Montreal gets a much needed top 2 line center and Colorado gets a reclamation project with high end potential and a potentially high (5-15) 1st round pick.
Both are over rated and on the outs with their respective teams so why not try switching it up.
Montreal gets a much needed top 2 line center and Colorado gets a reclamation project with high end potential and a potentially high (5-15) 1st round pick.
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He was the highest scoring forward under Julien last season. He's been our best offensive centerman we've seen in a VERY long time. As a C he's nearly a PPG. The team cant score and yet they decide to let him on the third line with 2 grinders with no talent. Hemsky who has done shit deserves more top line minutes than chucky in julien's eyes. Drouin has been bad as a C and brutal defensively, yet he gets a pass but whenever Chucky makes a mistake, he gets demoted down the lines like a dude flushing down his toilet. Its incredible the chucky situation and thats the ONLY reason im now fine with him getting traded soon.
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Galchenyuk for Duchene is even enough, even if the Avs fans don't think it is. No way in hell the Habs would add a 1st to such a proposal
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Galchenyuk and Duchene have very similar numbers. The Habs are definitely not adding a 1st round pick to that type of trade. That would be a swap and maybe a prospect thrown in from each side.
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It really wouldn't.
At all.
Duchene is a proven center that has been averaging 60 points / per 82 over his career who won an Olympic gold medal with Canada, who has put up a PPG season before and who also scored 30 goals the same season Galchenyuk did..
He also is sound defensively and a complete beast when it comes to faceoffs.
Galchenyuk is a very skilled offensive first forward who does not even have a real position right now.
They really are not comparable valuewise even if Habs fans for some weird reason believe they are because Galchenyuk once had a good season that was close to as good as Duchenes career average...
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wow.
ok look, he is good offensively, no one doubts that. He is just useless in the other 150 feet of the ice surface. That is no secret. As for your comparisons, go cherry pick some stats to show your point I dont care. You know what I see in those guys that I do not in Galchenyuk, heart and effort. They give it all they got. Chuck does not, he is a coaster and that is also no secret. Thats why he gets the demotion.
If Galchenyuk had Gallagher's heart and will I believe he could be a top 10 player. He just doesnt seem to care unless the puck is on his stick.
I dont know about you but personally I would prefer a 2 way 50 point guy than a 70 point guy that is useless in 150 feet of the ice surface
I like the Rask for Chucky idea.
JVR? No thanks. Leafs would have to overpay.
Y'all gotta stop pretending Duchene is a savior when he can't even save the Avs.
JVR? No thanks. Leafs would have to overpay.
Y'all gotta stop pretending Duchene is a savior when he can't even save the Avs.
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JVR potentially walks at the end of the year. He'll also want a king's ransom. Makes no sense for Montreal, who is struggling, to target him.
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Habs should really stop hiring coaches that are out to get this guy.
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I didn't say he has no value. However, the odds of him re-signing with Toronto and agreeing to an immediate trade to a struggling team are very low. Why would he possibly do that? How many times has that happened with a good player when they've been with a team for a while?
I kindly ask that you Leafs fans stop gunking up every trade thread with the same unlikely scenario.
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