GDT: Free Agent Frenzy 2014 II
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I suppose we can wait for their star players to get run at or cheap shorted or we can just wait for the playoffs where they get pushed around and intimidated.
Yeah I don't know where you are going with this one. Kronwall taken out on a stretcher, nothing. Datsyuk elbowed in the face, nothing. The same guy, Cowen, boards Helm and injures him, nothing. Marchand went after Zetterbergs back, shocker.
Teams don't care what they do to us because they get away with it.
Playoff and Stanley Cup winning teams have lots of grit. Glendening and Abdelkader are not Lucic, or Shaw, or Bickell, or Richards. We don't have a couple of those guys and it hurts. We limp every year, then get pushed around every year. It's VERY obvious.
Did you um watch the Boston series. They looked VERY afraid of going to the net hard and cutting to the middle because Boston makes you pay to go there.
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The guys you mentioned, Cowen and Marchand, do cheap crap against every team though. Im not sure if the Wings having more toughness would have done anything in those situations.
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Montreal was petrified against the B's. Folded like cheap suits!
The Red Wings folded like cheap suits but hey if you think we are as good as Montreal then I'll just LOL and move on.
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Detroit last year (Fully Healthy)
Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Alfredsson
Franzen-Weiss-Nyquist
Jurco-Sheahan-Tatar
Abdelkader-Helm-Miller
Kronwall-Smith
DeKeyser-Ericsson
Quincey-Kindl
Howard
Montreal last year (Fully Healthy)
Pacioretty-Desharnais-Vanek
Bourque-Plekanec-Gallagher
Galchenyuk-Eller-Gionta
Bournival-Briere-Weise
Gorges-Subban
Emelin-Markov
Bouillon-Weaver
Price
Bolded- Better player at position
Pretty even if you ask me, difference last year was we weren't healthy while they were
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Pretty much agree that Montreal is much more skilled than Detroit. Detroit has typically been a team in the mold of Montreal, we just don't have the skill at this point. I don't think going the Toronto route and overpaying for guys like Dave Clarkson is the way to go. Just my opinion.
Montreal also has more grit.
Prust
Gallagher
Weise
Moen
Murray
Bouillon
Tougher than anything he Wings would ever line up
Hey guys. Avs-fan here.
After striking out on FA like you guys did the other day... wouldn't it be a fantastic move to offer sheet a guy like Reilly Smith? I remember posting something here last summer about offer sheeting Nyquist when you were in the same situation.
I don't know what the maximum amount of salary you could give a guy and only pay a 2nd rounder in compensation as of today(Just over 3.2M I believe?). But wouldn't it be worth it? I'm sure he'd sign with you guys considering his brother is there. Either Bruins struggle to match it and you screw things up bad for division rival. Or, you get a pretty good young winger to your team for a 2nd rounder.
After striking out on FA like you guys did the other day... wouldn't it be a fantastic move to offer sheet a guy like Reilly Smith? I remember posting something here last summer about offer sheeting Nyquist when you were in the same situation.
I don't know what the maximum amount of salary you could give a guy and only pay a 2nd rounder in compensation as of today(Just over 3.2M I believe?). But wouldn't it be worth it? I'm sure he'd sign with you guys considering his brother is there. Either Bruins struggle to match it and you screw things up bad for division rival. Or, you get a pretty good young winger to your team for a 2nd rounder.
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I think it'd be a great idea for anyone to do it. The thing is I'm not sure Smith would sign it, especially if the Bruins have indicated that the will pay him accordingly in 2 or 3 seasons. The other problem is that we'll be having a lot of RFAs needing contract extensions soon and if we overpay for another teams RFA they'll likely use that as leverage to try and avoid the 2nd contract.
Hopefully someone does offer sheet Smith in the 3.2M+ range and it screws them over.
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Hurricanes brought back Tim Gleason earlier today on one-year, $1.2-million deal. Good business if you can get Leafs to buy out your guys...
Hurricanes brought back Tim Gleason earlier today on one-year, $1.2-million deal. Good business if you can get Leafs to buy out your guys...
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I don't think you guys struck out at all. I think you guys did well.
You replaced Stasny with another solid, veteran winger and brought in a good veteran stay at home defenseman as well. I would have been happy if the Wings made the moves you guys did.
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Take it with a huge grain of salt, but Eklund said Wings have interest in ex-Northern Michigan Mike Santorelli.
I actually wouldn't mind that, I thought he looked good last year. Can play center or wing, and is right handed.
He or Setoguchi could be a good RH option if Alfredsson retires maybe.
I actually wouldn't mind that, I thought he looked good last year. Can play center or wing, and is right handed.
He or Setoguchi could be a good RH option if Alfredsson retires maybe.
Is he fast? I'd like someone fast. His size is okay, I don't recall ever watching him.
As for Seto, I keep hearing that name but I don't want him. Whenever we played the Sharks I got to watch him play, so... a lot, and I was never impressed. It was always Pavelski and Couture and Marleau that killed us. Seto was just along for the ride.
I guess if we can get him really cheap I'm not opposed, he seems like he'd be a step down from Alfie though.
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Where would he play? Seems decent enough but I'm just not sure where he fits on the roster. I don't see him in our top six and the bottom six is already pretty crowded.
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If the Wings had upgraded their D (which we have yet to do) and iced the following roster this year
Nyquist-Zetterberg-Franzen
Alfie/Mantha-Datsyuk-Sheahan
Tatar-Weiss-Jurco
Abs-Helm-Miller/Glenny Etc
Kronner-Smith
Dekeyser-Other
Ericsson- Marchenko
I have no doubt that the Wings could beat a team like Boston because fast lineups can beat gritty lineups. The Wings teams that won the cup and went to the finals were probably less gritty then that team. The key is being healthy. Losing Ericsson and having Z/Dats at 50% capacity allowed Boston to basically just bully the rookies. Those guys won't be rookies this year and if Z/Dats are healthy they'll be able to be supporting scorers and not the main focus.
I fully expect a much better forward outing this year, but our actual defense w/ Quincey still remains terrible.
Nyquist-Zetterberg-Franzen
Alfie/Mantha-Datsyuk-Sheahan
Tatar-Weiss-Jurco
Abs-Helm-Miller/Glenny Etc
Kronner-Smith
Dekeyser-Other
Ericsson- Marchenko
I have no doubt that the Wings could beat a team like Boston because fast lineups can beat gritty lineups. The Wings teams that won the cup and went to the finals were probably less gritty then that team. The key is being healthy. Losing Ericsson and having Z/Dats at 50% capacity allowed Boston to basically just bully the rookies. Those guys won't be rookies this year and if Z/Dats are healthy they'll be able to be supporting scorers and not the main focus.
I fully expect a much better forward outing this year, but our actual defense w/ Quincey still remains terrible.
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i'll take santorelli. doubt he would ask big money as he is still available. i'd like that. signing santo could be one of the best UFA signings he's had in past 5 years. low risk, medium reward.
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He has versatility.
Could play as high as 2C if Weiss can't go, or if he plays then gets hurt.
Could play 3rd line center and bump Sheahan up.
Could play wing on line 2 or 3. He was on pace for 20 goals until he got hurt. Though he was playing with good linemates.
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hot dog
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It is pretty much a sure thing we are rarely 100% so if he could stay healthy he'd be a very nice guy to have. Still, it looks like fully healthy Jurco will probably already start in GR, so I'm hesitant to add more at forward. Someone actually useful like Santo I would like though, can just bump Glendening back to the AHL.
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