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Had interest in him as a potential C signing, as did many others.
He's a very solid player, and of course it's off to the Hawks
Had interest in him as a potential C signing, as did many others.
He's a very solid player, and of course it's off to the Hawks
eh 22 yr old player who only just hit PPG in the DEL? its not the biggest win for the blackhawks. No guarantee he sticks at C either, not sure I would spend an ELC on him we cant fit our own prospects as it is
No not for the leafs you are right there. It was a solid pickup for them though in my opinion, they were somewhat lacking in young prospects
Had interest in him as a potential C signing, as did many others.
I must be missing something. Not much of a cushion especially with the assumptions that Nylander and Marner will only get $6m/year AAV, and that we will banking on Rosen and two other prospects with little or no NHL experience on our blueline. Seems like it wouldn't take much to see that model fall apart?
what about The bonuses that are rolled over from the previous year potentially? right now that could be as much as 3.7 million according to cap geek, you also missed the 1.2 million in retained salary to Kessel and Seattle wont be in the NHL by the 19-20 season so that 85 million number is all speculation.
Isles wanted more than JVR for Hammonic. Who's to say they would not be interested in JVR as a UFA, especially if they fail to sign JT, in which case they will need goals and may want to throw their fans a bone.
eh 22 yr old player who only just hit PPG in the DEL? its not the biggest win for the blackhawks. No guarantee he sticks at C either, not sure I would spend an ELC on him we cant fit our own prospects as it is
edit: and did OK in the OHL
When guessing the size of Marner/Nylander's contracts, keep in mind that the rising cap is going to affect how much they get paid. As well, guys like Pastrnak and Ehlers had each had one good season, but Nylander will have had two, and Marner will most likely have had three. I wouldn't be suprised to see Nylander earn in the 7-7.5M range, and Marner up to 8M (depending on how he plays next year).
I thought Willie was ahead of Marner but have now changed my opinion. Willie, the more prolific goal scorer has put up 14 goals playing with Matthews while Mitch, the playmaker has 19 playing with anybody but Matthews. Willie and Mitch are great but they are not putting up the goals Ehlers (27) and Pasta (27) are and as such $6+M is fair IMO.
Not a fair judgement considering Matthews' has missed 17 games this season. There's also the argument that even when he returned to the line up in early December that he wasn't 100% at the time.
Regardless you're contract comparables are good. Inflation in the cap may see their contracts top out at $6.25/$6.65 AAV though.
At the end of the day Marner and Nylander will be paid what the going rate is to sign a player of their caliber. Cap going up doesn't matter and I do not see how it does. If Pastrnak or Ehlers or Monahann or Gaudrault or others are putting up similar numbers there is no reason to pay them more and these will be the comparable's. Not at all worried.
That's not how it works. A rising cap doesn't mean that all teams have more money to spend, it means that players get higher salaries.
Players of whatever caliber get a certain percentage of cap, rather than a certain dollar amount.
Why would the Leafs be forced to pay Nylander more then what similar players are being paid???? Makes no sense.
So that means if the cap goes higher again Matthews could get paid more then McDavid??? On what basis. Love the kid, great player....but no McDavid!!!!
I don't buy that players will get paid more because of a cap increase. JVR will get a contract similar to Oshie and for what Marleau signed for. Why??? Because that is the type of player he is.
Both Nylander and Marner will sign for what similar players signed for prior to them. Not a penny more because the cap increases.
I thought Willie was ahead of Marner but have now changed my opinion. Willie, the more prolific goal scorer has put up 14 goals playing with Matthews while Mitch, the playmaker has 19 playing with anybody but Matthews. Willie and Mitch are great but they are not putting up the goals Ehlers (27) and Pasta (27) are and as such $6+M is fair IMO.
I'd suggest Nylander's production has been less than both Ehlers and Pastrnak before they signed their contracts... as such, I'd be looking for a 6x6 deal for Nylander.
Marners production is probably warranting more in the 6.5-6.75 range, but he likely won't get re-upped until next year.
Though both Elhers and Pasta only had one season each of putting up higher numbers. Nylander will have two seasons scoring like a top 6 winger under his belt.
Though I’d say he’ll get in the 6-7 million range. What will be interesting to see is contract length. Bruins gave Pasta a deal that took him the quickest root to free agency, Elhers still has 1 year of RFa status once his latest contract ends.
Pasta's two year run has been quite a bit better than Willie's, Ehlers, not really, so he is the one they would be negotiating off of. Not a good time to have an off year, which is all I think it was. No way Willie does better than $6.5M, and with 14 goals, where is his leverage?
Pasta's two year run has been quite a bit better than Willie's, Ehlers, not really, so he is the one they would be negotiating off of. Not a good time to have an off year, which is all I think it was. No way Willie does better than $6.5M, and with 14 goals, where is his leverage?
The key variable here will be length.
Pasta likely took less money than he could have earned because his deal gets him to free agency so quickly. Elhers signed a “mediumish” term deal. Do the Leafs want to lock him up for 7-8 years and up some UFA years , if yes it’ll cost them, if not we will likely see a shorter term (like 5 years).
I’m not expecting this to be a major issue through, both sides likely find a reasonable compromise here.