Post-Game Talk: Free Agency 2023 "OH NO FOMO season"

[INDhockeyfan]

Trotz just wanted different veterans on the team, not Joey and Duchene. ROR fits the bill. We need centers.

 

[Kat Predator]

Not a fan of the years at all. Not sure what these guys really bring other than a Cup win on their resume.

Making the team older and slower!

 

[hido]

Re-activated my account just to voice how befuddled I am. None of this makes sense. I don't mind bringing in guys like that, but giving them term til they are 36 goes directly against the talk of the "three year window". Would much rather see Fischer, Geekie, Patrick, etc to throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks while getting a better pick.

If it's a re-tool, the Duchene and Johansen moves are bizarre.

I don't think it's bizarre if you look at it from the perspective of Duchene and Joey being crap leaders, which is the narrative right now.

 

[hockey diva]

Yeah but giving him 4 years is not what I view as smart management.

 

[Kat Predator]

Yeah but giving him 4 years is not what I view as smart management.

Can always buy him out and pay him until his social security kicks in.

 

[GeauxPreds1]

Lol what direction is this going. Screw go for debrincat and lindholm

 

[hockey diva]

Can always buy him out and pay him until his social security kicks in.

When we are paying Turris, Johansen and Duchene already?

 

[Kat Predator]

Blake Wheeler went for 1 year.

OTOH, Toronto signed 36 yo Ryan Reeves to a 3 year deal.

 

[herzausstein]

Im really confused. So where in the lineup is ror and where do novak, glass, and parssinen go

 

[TK]

When we are paying Turris, Johansen and Duchene already?

So they shouldn't sign anyone else? Those were all mistakes made by the old GM. New boss in town.

 

[Top 6 Spaling]

I don't think it's bizarre if you look at it from the perspective of Duchene and Joey being crap leaders, which is the narrative right now.

Hard to view it any other way. Establishing a new culture.

I am disappointed because it looks like we aren't going for for a true rebuild, choosing the "mushy middle" instead. I was hoping the trade/buyout were signs of a willingness to go with a youth movement but it doesn't appear that's the case.

 

[hockey diva]

Novak should not play center, he is terrible at FOs and has no defensive awareness.

 

[LCPreds]

The nerds calling it a fair deal. Pretty rare in free agency.

 

[GeauxPreds1]

This puts what 3 guys on the team now who have won it all?

YEAHA let’s put that banner up lol

 

[Kat Predator]

When we are paying Turris, Johansen and Duchene already?

 

[Gh24]

Yeah but giving him 4 years is not what I view as smart management.

Ideally it'd be shorter deal, but I guess that wasn't an option for him

 

[PredsV82]

Re-activated my account just to voice how befuddled I am. None of this makes sense. I don't mind bringing in guys like that, but giving them term til they are 36 goes directly against the talk of the "three year window". Would much rather see Fischer, Geekie, Patrick, etc to throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks while getting a better pick.

If it's a re-tool, the Duchene and Johansen moves are bizarre.

Not if you believe that part of the problem with this team was the "country club " attitudes, which is what Trotz has strongly implied. Reinventing the room basically.

And good to see you. First @token grinder now you! Stick around!

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Re-activated my account just to voice how befuddled I am. None of this makes sense. I don't mind bringing in guys like that, but giving them term til they are 36 goes directly against the talk of the "three year window". Would much rather see Fischer, Geekie, Patrick, etc to throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks while getting a better pick.

If it's a re-tool, the Duchene and Johansen moves are bizarre.

I mean, these are EXACTLY the moves I've been hearing Trotz say he wants to make for the last 2 months. And backed up by his transactions. So I don't understand the befuddlement. This is exactly the direction he has been advertising.

My only mild surprise is the actual names, I had a few other guys I thought might have a more direct past relationship with Trotz. And the term and $$$ it took to get those guys.

But to me, this is not bizarre in the least. This is exactly the direction Trotz always said he was going. I like it. (Aside from some mild trepidation about the age/term factor).

 

[LCPreds]

On the other hand. Nerds vs. Nerd-Adjacent:







We do indeed have the space.

 

[hockey diva]

Hard to view it any other way. Establishing a new culture.

I am disappointed because it looks like we aren't going for for a true rebuild, choosing the "mushy middle" instead. I was hoping the trade/buyout were signs of a willingness to go with a youth movement but it doesn't appear that's the case.

I think GMBT has to balance needing to build a winner with needing to fill the building. As frustrating as Poile was, see post above, he needed to make sure there were butts in the seats. Particularly corporate butts. Those seats pay the bills.

 

[Soundgarden]

Nice! Liking these moves so far.

 

[PredsV82]

Hard to view it any other way. Establishing a new culture.

I am disappointed because it looks like we aren't going for for a true rebuild, choosing the "mushy middle" instead. I was hoping the trade/buyout were signs of a willingness to go with a youth movement but it doesn't appear that's the case.

As long as there are no more signings I'm OK with it. We are still gonna have room for a lot of young guys.

If you go with nothing but youth and they end up not meshing and we are just horrible, that can stunt their development too. That's how you end up with 7 to 10 year rebuilds like Detroit and Chicago

Nice! Liking these moves so far.

Is Ryan Cal's brother?

 

[hockey diva]

Ah but Chicago now has the wunderkind Bedard.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

In UFA for a rebuilding team you need to overpay with $ or with term. Schenn was $, O'Reilly was term.

O'Reilly is the opposite of what our previous leadership group was. If guy isn't LTIRed in year 3 and 4, and is nothing but a 4th liner, guy will still bring it every night.

As long as there are no more signings I'm OK with it. We are still gonna have room for a lot of young guys.

If you go with nothing but youth and they end up not meshing and we are just horrible, that can stunt their development too. That's how you end up with 7 to 10 year rebuilds like Detroit and Chicago


Is Ryan Cal's brother?

Yes he is.

 

[101st_fan]

What is the next set of moves to accommodate just these two? Something has to give at RHD and at center.