Confirmed with Link: Flames do not qualify nine players, including Joe Colborne

[Anglesmith]

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[Flames Fanatic]

CALGARY, AB -- The Calgary Flames announced today that the following four players have received qualifying offers from the club:

Johnny Gaudreau (LW)

Freddie Hamilton (C)

Sean Monahan (C)

Tyler Wotherspoon (D)

The following players did not receive qualifying offers:

Kenny Agostino (LW)

Bill Arnold (C)

Joe Colborne (C)

Turner Elson (LW)

Josh Jooris (C)

Joni Ortio (G)

Kevin Poulin (G)

Drew Shore (C)

Bryce Van Brabant (LW)

Wow. Colborne and Ortio no QO's. Doesn't mean we won't sign them, just that we don't want them at QO prices.

 

[Anglesmith]

 

[Calculon]

Woah. Treliving's on the fan960 right now; said he still wants to re-sign Colborne, Jooris and Ortio. Specific reason was wanting to avoid arbitration.

Everyone else is gone. Treliving cites incoming graduation of junior level prospects as the reason why. Also Pribyl.

 

[Anglesmith]

Woah. Treliving's on the fan960 right now; said he still wants to re-sign Colborne, Jooris and Ortio.

Everyone else is gone.

That low-ceiling pinch, I guess. Every dollar counts, and as far as I remember, qualifying offers give a mandatory raise.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Arnold, Agostino, Shore, Van Brabant, Poulin, Elson all walk then?

Some surprising names in there :/

 

[Anglesmith]

Millions is talking about arbitration regarding Colborne, but I think he's just misunderstanding his sources. If they didn't qualify him, arbitration is off the table, isn't it? What Sportak says seems to indicate that Colborne was not qualified because he would have headed to arbitration.

 

[Anglesmith]

The Flames now have Klimchuk from the Iginla deal.

 

[Calculon]

Millions is talking about arbitration regarding Colborne, but I think he's just misunderstanding his sources. If they didn't qualify him, arbitration is off the table, isn't it? What Sportak says seems to indicate that Colborne was not qualified because he would have headed to arbitration.

Millions being Millions. Sportak is correct.

 

[Anglesmith]

Millions being Millions. Sportak is correct.

Yep. Turns out that was a factor in all three.

 

[AgeOfBennett]

Bummed Arnold isn't qualified. Always thought he could be the perfect 4C. with Colborne not being qualified what does that mean? We are definitely trading him? Or definitely signing him?

 

[Anglesmith]

Bummed Arnold isn't qualified. Always thought he could be the perfect 4C. with Colborne not being qualified what does that mean? We are definitely trading him? Or definitely signing him?

We're still trying to sign him, but weren't willing to give him what arbitration would award him.

 

[Calculon]

Bummed Arnold isn't qualified. Always thought he could be the perfect 4C. with Colborne not being qualified what does that mean? We are definitely trading him? Or definitely signing him?

Flames don't have the rights to Colborne anymore, so no trading him. Either he re-signs or walks and signs with any other team on July 1st. Clearly, management doesn't value him or any of the other non-qualified players all that much given what they're risking.

As for Arnold, the writing was on the wall. The fact that he wasn't called up and given a cup of coffee at the end of season indicated what the organization thought of him. Guessing F.Hamilton made him redundant in their eyes, or he was only ever signed to placate Gaudreau. I agree that it's disappointing but I guess it frees up a ton of spots for incoming junior, college and overseas level prospects. But hilariously enough, the defense is still terribly overcrowded.

 

[FlamesFan18]

Should we expect a UFA winger now?

Gaudreau - Monahan - UFA
Shinkaruk/Tkachuk - Bennett - Frolik
Ferland - Backlund - Pribyl/Shinkaruk/Tkachuk
Bouma - Stajan - Chiasson
Bollig Raymond

 

[AgeOfBennett]

Should we expect a UFA winger now?

Gaudreau - Monahan - UFA
Shinkaruk/Tkachuk - Bennett - Frolik
Ferland - Backlund - Pribyl/Shinkaruk/Tkachuk
Bouma - Stajan - Chiasson
Bollig Raymond

Perron please.

 

[Deen]

I know a lot of people have a hard on for Joe but, I did not think he could replicate what he did last year personally and I did not want to pay him.

 

[FlamesFan18]

I know a lot of people have a hard on for Joe but, I did not think he could replicate what he did last year personally and I did not want to pay him.

Ill take a risk on Chiasson at 800k over Colborne at 3mil+. Gives us a couple million to work with towards acquiring a legit top 6 winger.

 

[Mr Lebowski]

Really disappointed that Arnold and Shore probably won't be back

 

[Anglesmith]

Flames don't have the rights to Colborne anymore, so no trading him. Either he re-signs or walks and signs with any other team on July 1st. Clearly, management doesn't value him or any of the other non-qualified players all that much given what they're risking.

As for Arnold, the writing was on the wall. The fact that he wasn't called up and given a cup of coffee at the end of season indicated what the organization thought of him. Guessing F.Hamilton made him redundant in their eyes, or he was only ever signed to placate Gaudreau. I agree that it's disappointing but I guess it frees up a ton of spots for incoming junior, college and overseas level prospects. But hilariously enough, the defense is still terribly overcrowded.

I believe we still do have exclusive rights to re-sign Colborne until July 1st. But the value in terms of trade is zero, because the UFA courting window is open.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

I know a lot of people have a hard on for Joe but, I did not think he could replicate what he did last year personally and I did not want to pay him.

I agree.

Dougie pulling some strings and calling in favours for his brother though.

 

[JurassicTunga]

I agree.

Dougie pulling some strings and calling in favours for his brother though.

Dougie is actually the GM of the Flames.

 

[RedHot]

Shore was mediocre incarnate.

I'd expect Jooris and Ortio to be brought back. Jooris is actually a useful player.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

Shore was mediocre incarnate.

I'd expect Jooris and Ortio to be brought back. Jooris is actually a useful player.

Jooris of two years ago was. Jooris last year not as much.

Shore I wish we had moved when we had "plenty of interest" in him.

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

I'm not sure why people are in shock. No standout names in the list.

They are replaceable players.

 

[Anglesmith]

Dougie is actually the GM of the Flames.

Burke is a puppet of Dougie, and Treliving is a sub-puppet of Burke. And Dougie is a puppet of Freddie.