Confirmed with Link: Flames acquire Brandon Bollig

[MuffinMerc]

A wise man just mentioned that Bollig may be a replacement for Galiardi, not necessarily Westgarth.

What a big gaff that would be.

 

[Snakepit]

What a big gaff that would be.

Disagreed, big upgrade on Gali imo

 

[Lunatik]

What a big gaff that would be.

How do you figure? You act like Bollig is some goon, buy he isn't. He just finished his first full NHL season and had 7 goals and 14 points as a role player. He's bigger and meaner than Galiardi and better suited for a role that could see some 4th line time.

 

[Calculon]

A wise man just mentioned that Bollig may be a replacement for Galiardi, not necessarily Westgarth.

I forget half the time that Galiardi's still a Flame.

 

[Yung Rotini]

I forget half the time that Galiardi's still a Flame.

Who's Galiardi?

 

[MuffinMerc]

How do you figure? You act like Bollig is some goon, buy he isn't. He just finished his first full NHL season and had 7 goals and 14 points as a role player. He's bigger and meaner than Galiardi and better suited for a role that could see some 4th line time.

I have a different perspective. Galiardi was ******* awful last season but that was his worst NHL season ever. Galiardi has the potential to rebound and regain some form (maybe like how Gio was ****ing dog awful 2 seasons ago, but rebounded last season but I'm not expecting quite the return for Galiardi). If Bollig is to truly replace him instead of Westgarth then it is absolutely a huge gaff since Galiardi is much better that Wesgarth, and Westgarth is awful.

And secondly, I don't act like he's a goon simply because I've seen enough Chicago games (2+ seasons now) to know that he isn't a goon. He is, in fact, a borderline 4th liner. And since Hartley likes DEM LINE CHANGES I fully expect him to see some 3rd line minutes from time to time. I sincerely hope to be wrong and hope to be pleasantly surprised, but my hopes aren't that high to begin with.

 

[Lunatik]

I have a different perspective. Galiardi was ******* awful last season but that was his worst NHL season ever. Galiardi has the potential to rebound and regain some form (maybe like how Gio was ****ing dog awful 2 seasons ago, but rebounded last season but I'm not expecting quite the return for Galiardi). If Bollig is to truly replace him instead of Westgarth then it is absolutely a huge gaff since Galiardi is much better that Wesgarth, and Westgarth is awful.

And secondly, I don't act like he's a goon simply because I've seen enough Chicago games (2+ seasons now) to know that he isn't a goon. He is, in fact, a borderline 4th liner. And since Hartley likes DEM LINE CHANGES I fully expect him to see some 3rd line minutes from time to time. I sincerely hope to be wrong and hope to be pleasantly surprised, but my hopes aren't that high to begin with.

Oh right I forgot he's the new Comeau

who BTW was one of our hardest working and most physical players while he was here.

 

[MuffinMerc]

Oh right I forgot he's the new Comeau

who BTW was one of our hardest working and most physical players while he was here.

And Bollig is the same. I won't knock him there. In fact he is also pretty good in the locker room. But my point being is that he is an underwhelming player the majority of the time he is on the ice, and you have to watch the games in order to see how underwhelming he is.

 

[Anglesmith]

I have a different perspective. Galiardi was ******* awful last season but that was his worst NHL season ever. Galiardi has the potential to rebound and regain some form

That is exactly the sort of sentiment we had for Comeau. The only difference was he had his bad season before we acquired him.

 

[MuffinMerc]

That is exactly the sort of sentiment we had for Comeau. The only difference was he had his bad season before we acquired him.

And the main difference being that Comeau was just bad as was Galiardi was offensively snakebitten. Galiardi would have a helluva lot more points last season if he were able to settle down and stop shooting the puck 2 inches wide. And you know what? I'd rather risk having a snakebitten Galiardi for one more year rather than an Bollig for three. And at least Galiardi is good on the forecheck.

 

[slappipappi]

Meh, it's a late 3rd round pick in a less than deep draft. The odds of that pick being anything of substance is minimal.

The odds of Bollig being anything of substance is likely less than minimal.

I rebuilding team doesn't need to be giving up 3rd round picks for 4th line players.

 

[Anglesmith]

And the main difference being that Comeau was just bad as was Galiardi was offensively snakebitten. Galiardi would have a helluva lot more points last season if he were able to settle down and stop shooting the puck 2 inches wide. And you know what? I'd rather risk having a snakebitten Galiardi for one more year rather than an Bollig for three. And at least Galiardi is good on the forecheck.

It's not just about point totals, but about consistently being the one to give up the puck in the offensive zone and not be able to help a line sustain possession. The puck often dies on Galiardi's stick, and that's something that was common with Comeau first (after he did a couple laps of the o-zone, often). And to suggest that Comeau wasn't snakebit just as much as Galiardi is ridiculous, to me.

 

[Snakepit]

Main difference as I see it is Galiardi has been trending down, while Bollig has been improving.

 

[joeyabs]

The odds of Bollig being anything of substance is likely less than minimal.

I rebuilding team doesn't need to be giving up 3rd round picks for 4th line players.

I wasn't too happy about the trade and agree with this statement for the most part, BUT ....Calgary has a lot more skilled prospects than most people realize, we'll need some bigger players to complement them. Also we need several stop-gap players for the next several years until our prospects can make the club full time / become NHL regulars (unlike Edm).

 

[MuffinMerc]

And to suggest that Comeau wasn't snakebit just as much as Galiardi is ridiculous, to me.

And it isn't to me, because you can see the differences between the players when they are on the ice. At the very least Galiardi is a forechecking dog who fetches the puck for his team mates when the puck is dumped in. Bollig should be a replacement for Westgarth, who is slow and doesn't win any fights and doesn't forecheck or backcheck very well, but replacing Galiardi is backwards to me (if this is true).

And lets put it this way: if our 4th line was...
Comeau - Wesgarth - McGrattan
... and if someone said Bollig was to replace Comeau instead of Westgarth I would voicing my concern all the same.

 

[Skobel24]

Regardless of who he MAY replace, I see one positive side to this. It's going to create some competition for players to make the lineup and stay in it. I'd be fine with bringing back Galiardi as well, and making the guys compete for the spots.

 

[slappipappi]

I wasn't too happy about the trade and agree with this statement for the most part, BUT ....Calgary has a lot more skilled prospects than most people realize, we'll need some bigger players to complement them. Also we need several stop-gap players for the next several years until our prospects can make the club full time / become NHL regulars (unlike Edm).

I expect that you can get stop gap players for under $1M every year at UFA time.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Well at least Bollig is coming off his best ever NHL season.

I rebuilding team doesn't need to be giving up 3rd round picks for 4th line players.

No but you do for guys to round out the lineup. Ask Edmonton how the rebuild goes when you don't have that presence on your young team...

 

[Skobel24]

Just a thought, but is it possible Bollig is going to be a replacement for McGrattan? Aside from fighting, Bollig is far more effective.

Glencross - Stajan - Hudler
Gaudreau - Backlund - Jones
Byron - Monahan - Colborne
Bollig - Bouma - Galiardi
McGrattan

Giordano - Brodie
Russell - Smid
Wideman - Wotherspoon

The Heat-er, the Baby Flames could look something like;

Baertschi - Bennett - Poirier
Granlund - Knight - Wolf
Reinhart - Jones/Street - Agostino
Ferland - Jooris - Hanowski

Billins - Smith
O'Brien - Sieloff
Kulak - Culkin

Ortio - Roy

Send Klimchuk back to the WHL. This still leaves us with Van Brabant, Arnold, Elson. Gotta think there are some more deals coming.

 

[Yung Rotini]

Just a thought, but is it possible Bollig is going to be a replacement for McGrattan? Aside from fighting, Bollig is far more effective.

Glencross - Stajan - Hudler
Gaudreau - Backlund - Jones
Byron - Monahan - Colborne
Bollig - Bouma - Galiardi
McGrattan

Giordano - Brodie
Russell - Smid
Wideman - Wotherspoon

The Heat-er, the Baby Flames could look something like;

Baertschi - Bennett - Poirier
Granlund - Knight - Wolf
Reinhart - Jones/Street - Agostino
Ferland - Jooris - Hanowski

Billins - Smith
O'Brien - Sieloff
Kulak - Culkin

Ortio - Roy

Send Klimchuk back to the WHL. This still leaves us with Van Brabant, Arnold, Elson. Gotta think there are some more deals coming.

Bennett isn't eligible for the AHL next season

 

[Skobel24]

Bennett isn't eligible for the AHL next season

Forgot about that. I was hoping Sven and Bennett could develop chemistry together, but I'd likely bring Sven up and put him where Byron is. Byron can then... likely go somewhere else.

 

[Anglesmith]

Forgot about that. I was hoping Sven and Bennett could develop chemistry together, but I'd likely bring Sven up and put him where Byron is. Byron can then... likely go somewhere else.

Instantly I feel my protective instincts coming on toward Byron. Why is what he did last season so underappreciated?

I loved Byron last season. I was hesitant when he first got called up, but he really won me over especially toward the end of the season. Hopefully he agrees to another 2-way deal, because having him in Adirondack as a call-up option is so valuable.

 

[Sean Monahan]

this move pretty much confirms that more youngsters will be on the team next year. Safety measures for the one and only Johnny Hockey I'd assume. With Bollig, Grats, Bouma, and possibly god-knows-why Westgarth, no one will dare to touch our little saint.

With the way Bennett plays I wouldn't doubt he makes the team in a checking role sheltered on the left-wing because of his strong two way play. His never quit attitude will win the coaching staff and the management's hearts.

Glencross-Backlund-Hudler
Gaudreau-Monahan-Colborne
Bennett-Stajan-Jones
Bollig-Bouma-McGrattan

 

[Lunatik]

And Bollig is the same. I won't knock him there. In fact he is also pretty good in the locker room. But my point being is that he is an underwhelming player the majority of the time he is on the ice, and you have to watch the games in order to see how underwhelming he is.

what 3rd/4th liner isn't underwhelming the majority of the time? That is why they are 3rd/4th liners! If they weren't underwhelming they would be 1st and 2nd liners.

This seems more like you are looking for something to complain about more than anything.

 

[Taranis]

I love the idea of a Gaudreau-Monahan-Colborne line. Just seems too good to pass up.