Player Discussion Erik Karlsson Discussion Thread | Part IV | Foot Surgery Edition

[Karl Prime]

Alfie used to get pissed a lot when things weren't going well. Karl was obviously mentored by Alfie and he shares many of the same traits.

And obviously Erik has to find a way to play better - no team can have real success without their best player playing like it. Hopefully he can start to turn it around tonight - it may only take a little to get him going back in the right direction again.

 

[coladin]

I think he has turned the corner. Last two games he has been more engaged and skating harder. Last night was his best skating game yet...he will be the catalyst as he always is.

 

[pepty]

Elliott Freidman and the boys discussing a possible Karlsson trade.
That would be the end for Melnyk.

 

[Karl Prime]

Elliott Freidman and the boys discussing a possible Karlsson trade.
That wold be the end for Melnyk.

If Ottawa actually did trade Karlsson and didn't get a major haul for him, I think I'd have to seriously consider my fandom - at least to the hardcore extent it's been since I was 4 years old.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

If Ottawa actually did trade Karlsson and didn't get a major haul for him, I think I'd have to seriously consider my fandom - at least to the hardcore extent it's been since I was 4 years old.

Melnyk knows they'd lose a large chunk of the fanbase if they ever traded Karlsson. It'd be career suicide for Dorion too.

I really don't see it happening.

 

[Studzle]

Goodbye my friend,
You have been the one,
You have been the one for me.

 

[Ser Grogu]

Elliott Freidman and the boys discussing a possible Karlsson trade.
That wold be the end for Melnyk.

Uncle Euge's entering Harvey Dent territory now.

 

[Very Stable Genius]

OH MY GOD FIRE MELNYK INTO THE SUN

 

[Uchiha]

We need new ownership and a clean sweep of management ASAP.

 

[pepty]

Its hard to tell because Friedman often inserts his own speculation in place of actual news such as-The Sens are being moved to Quebec city from a couple of years back.

 

[Sun God Nika]

If Ottawa traded EK cuz Melnyks ego was hurt , anyone continuing to feed Melnyks pockets is a complete idiot.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

OH MY GOD FIRE MELNYK INTO THE SUN

Not a Melnyk fan ... but this is coming from Kypreos ... Saying Melnyk is upset blah blah... Did Kypreos speak to Melnyk or did he hear this at the Happy ending spa

 

[Sun God Nika]

These are speculations if false , the GM has to come out personally and shut them down, if he doesn't then there is merit.

 

[Sensinitis]

Whether this is true or not (I doubt it's true), I just hope this clown is out by the New Year or this summer at the latest.

 

[Very Stable Genius]

Not a Melnyk fan ... but this is coming from Kypreos ... Saying Melnyk is upset blah blah... Did Kypreos speak to Melnyk or did he hear this at the Happy ending spa

Speculation or not, my comment still stands.

 

[pepty]

These are speculations if false , the GM has to come out personally and shut them down, if he doesn't then there is merit.

The GM has to follow orders. Tom Anselmi or Melnyk should address this because Melnyk is directly implicated. Well maybe Anselmi, Melnyk is likely to make matter worse.

 

[Ouroboros]

The GM has to follow orders. Tom Anselmi or Melnyk should address this because Melnyk is directly implicated. Well maybe Anselmi, Melnyk is likely to make matter worse.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

I am guessing this is the equivalent of dumping someone before they dump you.

 

[aragorn]

This shouldn't come as a surprise, $10 mil for one player on a small market team can be crippling. It also wouldn't surprise me if this has already been discussed by management for some time which may be why they were trying to go for it this yr which has back fired. Why not get a good NHL player, a good prospect & a 1st rd pick? It's not like this team is going anywhere anyway & they are playing like crap with Karlsson in the lineup & he is a minus -13 or something. Maybe it's time they start transitioning to their prospects & a younger team

 

[HavlatMach9]

they are playing like crap with Karlsson in the lineup & he is a minus -13 or something. Maybe it's time they start transitioning to their prospects & a younger team

Karlsson had a bad season (minus the Olympics) following the achilles injury. The three seasons after, he grabs a Norris, and and is second the other two years. He takes his team deep into the playoffs, and has a major surgery, and begins the next season poorly. You're willing to give up this player THAT easily?

 

[FireMelnyk]

<<<

We need new direction for this team. Hopefully the ownership change rumors were true.

 

[aragorn]

Karlsson had a bad season following the achilles injury. The three seasons after, he grabs a Norris, and and is second the other two years. He takes his team deep into the playoffs, and has a major surgery, and begins the next season poorly. You're willing to give up this player THAT easily?

I don't think they will pay him the $10 mil or so he will want, so why not trade him & get as much as you can. Look at this team, they are terrible with Karlsson on the team, they aren't going anywhere & with mostly the same lineup next yr will need a miracle reversal to just make the playoffs. They are almost at the bottom of the league, why not start re-building now?

 

[SPF6ty9]

Karlsson had a bad season (minus the Olympics) following the achilles injury. The three seasons after, he grabs a Norris, and and is second the other two years. He takes his team deep into the playoffs, and has a major surgery, and begins the next season poorly. You're willing to give up this player THAT easily?

Everyone is overreacting the long term implications of Karlsson's play so far this year. Ya he doesn't look good, but he also spent the entire offseason purposely not exercising and is probably in the worst shape he's been in right now since he's entered the league. If we trade him now while his value is at it's lowest we'll be the laughing stock of the league when he's winning multiple Norris' again starting next year.

 

[aragorn]

Everyone is overreacting the long term implications of Karlsson's play so far this year. Ya he doesn't look good, but he also spent the entire offseason purposely not exercising and is probably in the worst shape he's been in right now since he's entered the league. If we trade him now while his value is at it's lowest we'll be the laughing stock of the league when he's winning multiple Norris' again starting next year.

I don't think he is at his lowest value & what would that be for the best defenceman in the world? I would think he would get a pretty big haul, look what it took to get Duchene out of Colorado. I think he could get a very good NHL player (Simmonds), a really good young player or prospect (Provorov) & a 1st rd pick or more. Considering some of the very good prospects we have they might return to respectability within a few yrs but they have to get rid of this coach & bring in some quality goaltending.

 

[SPF6ty9]

I don't think he is at his lowest value & what would that be for the best defenceman in the world? I would think he would get a pretty big haul, look what it took to get Duchene out of Colorado. I think he could get a very good NHL player (Simmonds), a really good young player or prospect (Provorov) & a 1st rd pick or more. Considering some of the very good prospects we have they might return to respectability within a few yrs but they have to get rid of this coach & bring in some quality goaltending.

The fact that many people even fans of this team are for some reason questioning if he'll ever "be the same" would suggest he would be at his lowest value, until he shows elite form again to silence any doubt. No doubt like you said he's still worth a boatload...unfortunately Dorion's track record wouldn't exactly inspire confidence in getting what we would expect is "fair value".