Value of: Erik Karlsson at the draft

[carter333167]

These are the type of deals that I would like:

Klingberg, Seguin, Nuke, and a 1st.

Ellis, Forsberg, Josi, and a 1st for Methot and Karlsson.

Hamilton, Gaudreau, Bennett, and a 1st.

Pietrangelo, Schwartz, Schmaltz, and 2 1st rounders.

Larsson, Klefbom, Draisaitl, Jones, and a 1st for Karlsson and Methot.

There is a lot more, just can't think right from the top of my head.

Notwithstanding Ottawa fans' love for Karlsson (which is understandable), Ottawa would pull the trigger very quickly on a couple of these deals...b/c they are pretty clearly overpayment.

 

[NyQuil]

How about I do this again?

Klingberg, Nuke, Faksa, and a 1st.

Forsberg, Ellis, Kamenev, and a 1st.

Pietrangelo, Schwartz, and a 1st.

Hamilton, Bennett, Frolik, and a 1st.

Draisaitil, Larsson, Jones, and a 1st.

Sure.

If they want to trade him.

Which they probably don't.

 

[HarrisonFord]

If Karlsson is traded, he won't get his "actual value" because superstars never seem to get their actual value because they aren't traded, unless there's a motivated seller where
time is of the essence.

That's what the problem with these "value of" threads is.

He'll probably get a roster player, a good prospect and two #1 picks or something.

A guy like Matthews wouldn't get his actual worth because why on Earth is Toronto trading him unless there's some kind of emergency or problem?

Despite the hopes and dreams of a few Leaf fans in this thread, Melnyk shooting his mouth off is nothing new and the Olympics issue is pretty moot with the entire league turning up their noses to the players. So I think this is a pointless exercise in any event.

They're trading him because he's going to bolt to Arizona the first chance he gets!

 

[HarrisonFord]

How about I do this again?

Klingberg, Nuke, Faksa, and a 1st.

Forsberg, Ellis, Kamenev, and a 1st.

Pietrangelo, Schwartz, and a 1st.

Hamilton, Bennett, Frolik, and a 1st.

Draisaitil, Larsson, Jones, and a 1st.

Outside of the STL one these are all realistic trade values

 

[NyQuil]

They're trading him because he's going to bolt to Arizona the first chance he gets!

You'd better hope that team folds or moves.

"What? They're moving to San Ramon California?????"

 

[HarrisonFord]

You'd better hope that team folds or moves.

Darkest timeline: he leaves for Arizona, Arizona then relocates to be the second team in Toronto

 

[The Great Weal]

Emelin+Fucale

 

[Tundra]

Taylor Hall, Damon Severson and two seconds.

 

[Tundra]

If the sens don't play their cards right, this could transform into a Don Waddle/Ilya Kovalchuk situation. As soon as you find out his true intentions, then you trade him ASAP for maximum value.

 

[KirkOut]

How about I do this again?

Klingberg, Nuke, Faksa, and a 1st.

Forsberg, Ellis, Kamenev, and a 1st.

Pietrangelo, Schwartz, and a 1st.

Hamilton, Bennett, Frolik, and a 1st.

Draisaitil, Larsson, Jones, and a 1st.

That Blues one is just embarrassingly terrible

 

[Asquaredx2]

nope

 

[Puikiou]

Here's my take on your proposals, don't take it for more than what it is.

How about I do this again?

Klingberg, Nuke, Faksa, and a 1st. No. It reads as Klingberg and a bunch of unaccomplished hope/magic beans.

Forsberg, Ellis, Kamenev, and a 1st. No. Forsberg's good. Ellis's good. Kamenev is promising and the 1st is a 1st, but it still feels like a bunch of quantity for a player of Karlsson's caliber. All 3 of Johansen/Josi/Subban can't be left off a package for Karlsson.

Pietrangelo, Schwartz, and a 1st. Really torn on this one. Which probably indicates it's a good proposal.

Hamilton, Bennett, Frolik, and a 1st. Absolutely not. The Canadian Tire Center would burn.

Draisaitil, Larsson, Jones, and a 1st. If Karlsson HAD to be traded. This is the kind of package that could get it done and I think actually help both teams moving forward.

 

[NyQuil]

If the sens don't play their cards right, this could transform into a Don Waddle/Ilya Kovalchuk situation. As soon as you find out his true intentions, then you trade him ASAP for maximum value.

What intentions?

The intentions to continue being the Team Captain, a pillar in the community, engaged to a local girl?

 

[Jozay]

OEL + Domi + Strome and 2017 1st round.

lol theres no way arizona would pay that much.

 

[Gnashville]

Subban for Karlsson

 

[Nuke]

If Ottawa were to trade Karlsson we'd want a 2017 1st, a top 6 centre, a top 4 defenseman and a team's top prospect. Even then we'd have to think about it.

Sabres offer...

Reinhart
McCabe
Nylander
2017 First

 

[Hale The Villain]

Sens trade Karlsson and the team might as well move to Quebec City.

Season ticket holders will evaporate, fairweather fans won't go to the games, and a decent portion of the fanbase (especially kids) will follow Karlsson to whatever team he gets traded to. Would be a financial nightmare for Melnyk.

Won't happen.

 

[hagelin1381]

The only players the Sens would trade Karlsson for is McDavid. Maybe Crosby. Not even 100% sure on Crosby

 

[ManofSteel55]

If Ottawa were to trade Karlsson we'd want a 2017 1st, a top 6 centre, a top 4 defenseman and a team's top prospect. Even then we'd have to think about it.

I would do that. Nuge, one of Klefbom or Sekera, Pulujarvi and our 1st? Get 'er done.

 

[Beautvillier]

Josh Bailey + 3rd straight up.

no thanks. the franchise wing can stay.

 

[LuckyPierre]

Sens trade Karlsson and the team might as well move to Quebec City.

Season ticket holders will evaporate, fairweather fans won't go to the games, and a decent portion of the fanbase (especially kids) will follow Karlsson to whatever team he gets traded to. Would be a financial nightmare for Melnyk.

Won't happen.

This is the spot on the internet where discussing the possibility that he doesn't intend to re-sign in two years for whatever reason is an interesting thought exercise.

If they trade Karlsson prior to the NTC kicking in this summer, at 6.5 million remaining for two years, they'll receive the biggest return of any trade since Y2K. The only reason they'd do so is if they realized there was chance of getting burned by Karlsson for some reason. Which there is a chance of, to some degree. Who knows.

No harm in getting a read on what other teams fanbases would offer for two years of discounted peak Karlsson years plus exclusive UFA negotiating rights. He could easily take a win-now mode team to a cup if they could afford to cough up young elite talent and futures. I'm curious to see how high the bidding could go, and his affordable salary really makes things interesting.

 

[TMLegend]

He'll just sign with the Leafs after the 2018-19 season.

 

[Not Jared Cowen]

I would do that. Nuge, one of Klefbom or Sekera, Pulujarvi and our 1st? Get 'er done.

It would be Draisaitl, not Nuge, and still no unless he's 100% not staying, which there's absolutely no evidence of except mindless speculation.

 

[LTIR]

Just came by to say Olympics > NHL AINEC.

 

[Super Cake]

I would do that. Nuge, one of Klefbom or Sekera, Pulujarvi and our 1st? Get 'er done.

No old players.

Trading Karlsson would signal a rebuild.

So the Sens would be looking for young players.

That is unless you need to trade Sekara for cap purposes.