Speculation: Eichel: Do we want/need him? .....Who/what would you trade?

[Ray Martyniuk]

So essentially we ice a whole Sabres team for Eichel? Buffalo goes over the cap and the contract limit. The NHL vetos that trade 10/10 times. The NHLPA files a complaint and every agent in professional hockey avoids trading with LA for the next decade. Our farm club is depleted and when injuries happen we go to the local rec league for call ups?

Never said anything about actually making the trade happen,just who'd I'd offer...the moment the Sabres said yes I'd pull the players off the table! LA doesn't need a malcontent and a 10 Million dollar cry baby at that

 

[No Name The Nameless]

None of those guys you mentioned cost us our top prospect, and multiple high draft picks. Eichel will cost at least 2-4 assets and picks. All that for a good player with a serious neck injury. A healthy player, perhaps, but not the way he is now.

Eichel is more than good. He's a franchise player. A superstar. I agree with the rest of what you said.

 

[MBH]

You've got Kopitar, Byfield, Turcotte, Vilardi, Danault, JAD, Kupari...
come one now.
Go get a top 4 LD.

 

[Lt Dan]

You've got Kopitar, Byfield, Turcotte, Vilardi, Danault, JAD, Kupari...
come one now.
Go get a top 4 LD.

 

[Statto]

Eichel is more than good. He's a franchise player. A superstar. I agree with the rest of what you said.

He’s also a real concern behind the scenes if you look at all the issues in Buffalo, he’s been part of the problem there, the debate is about how big a part.

 

[Lt Dan]

He’s also a real concern behind the scenes if you look at all the issues in Buffalo, he’s been part of the problem there, the debate is about how big a part.

 

[ottsabrefan]

I'd rather us prey Dahlin out over Eichel. More of a need

That's smart. That's who I'd go after from the Sabres. He's pretty close to untouchable in my books. He looked pretty elite in the second half with the new coach.

 

[JTeller97]

Saw Jack with Pat Brisson on Tuesday in Santa Monica not to brag hahaha but did find it interesting he's in La a couple weeks before training camp. Don't see any way we trade for him after signing Danault but I do think he could land in Anaheim.

 

[DoktorJeep]

Cap’n Jack would take a square needle to the left nut for the chance to play on the Kings.

 

[ibleedkings]

Saw Jack with Pat Brisson on Tuesday in Santa Monica not to brag hahaha but did find it interesting he's in La a couple weeks before training camp. Don't see any way we trade for him after signing Danault but I do think he could land in Anaheim.

Did you happen to see them at Taco Bell?

 

[Sleeping Dog]

Cap’n Jack would take a square needle to the left nut for the chance to play on the Kings.

Boy, that’s some commitment!

But it keeps coming back to the cost of acquiring him as well as his health. Training camp is almost starting and we don’t even know if he needs the back surgery. If he does, he could be out for a significant amount of time.

I fully understand that you need to give up quality to get quality, but his health and $10M contract is enough for me to pass on this opportunity.

 

[DoktorJeep]

Boy, that’s some commitment!

But it keeps coming back to the cost of acquiring him as well as his health. Training camp is almost starting and we don’t even know if he needs the back surgery. If he does, he could be out for a significant amount of time.

I fully understand that you need to give up quality to get quality, but his health and $10M contract is enough for me to pass on this opportunity.

I think it’s been said he needs a neck surgery no matter what, either disc fusion (teams choice) or replacement (player’s). The quicker recovery time (90 days) for replacement has been used as an argument in favor of that option by Eichel’s doctor.

The Sabres and Eichel are facing their first true deadline with the start of camp a few weeks away. Seems like Eichel will be a no show in any case. Obviously if he gets traded. If he’s unable to play, I’m curious to see if the medical treatment dispute will prevent him from going on LT/IR. If the dispute is resolved in any combination of ways, he’s going on LTIR at some point.

So while the recovery time is significant, the argument between player and team is just extending it for no benefit to any party. At this point, it’s all about Kevin Adam’s and whether he blinks first.

 

[Fishhead]

Saw Jack with Pat Brisson on Tuesday in Santa Monica not to brag hahaha but did find it interesting he's in La a couple weeks before training camp. Don't see any way we trade for him after signing Danault but I do think he could land in Anaheim.

A lot of guys come to LA in the offseason, especially Brisson clients, but if it was indeed Jack I wouldn't write too much into it. I think most teams welcome NHL'ers from out of town to use their facilities, it's a nice place to get some work in before being stuck in the cold for most of the season. I think an even bigger draw is the anonymity.

 

[DoktorJeep]

A lot of guys come to LA in the offseason, especially Brisson clients, but if it was indeed Jack I wouldn't write too much into it. I think most teams welcome NHL'ers from out of town to use their facilities, it's a nice place to get some work in before being stuck in the cold for most of the season. I think an even bigger draw is the anonymity.

Maybe Luc got Jack a coupon for 10% off all treatments at long time Kings sponsor Disc Sports & Spine Center.

 

[Stimpythecat]

Tavares even met with teams in LA but not the kings or ducks.

 

[YP44]

Tavares even met with teams in LA but not the kings or ducks.

Point? Neither team had the cap space for him back then

 

[Stimpythecat]

Kings could have fit him in at 10 (not the 11 he got from the leafs) but that would have required trading gaborik's contract.

But the point is to add to Fishhead's comment that players routinely come to LA to meet with Brisson.

 

[deeshamrock]

Given the source, take it with a bucket of salt , in lieu of grain, but Friedman did mention BRisson in LA meetings and such. Could be another team but maybe not

HockeyBuzz.com - Eklund - Developing: Kings/Sabres Deal Being Worked. Eichel. Six total pieces. (E4)


Per a source, “The agent for Eichel is trying to broker a deal that would send Eichel and Sabres D Robert Hagg to LA for 4 players, 3 of whom are expected to make a push to be in the Kings opening night roster (1 was for some of this past of last season). The other player is the Kings next first round pick.”

The source continued, “….this has been discussed in the summer but the Kings look like they would like to sweep in and finish this. They are comfortable with the current Eichel health issues.”

 

[Telos]

I'll believe it when I see it. It's just too crazy to blow it up now, not to mention the financial gymnastics that have to happen to accomplish it. I am sure Eichel's agent is doing anything and everything to get the ball rolling. I am sure everyone would love to see him healthy in a Kings sweater, but the costs all around are too staggering and it is not only the wrong time but also would require a 180 from Blake & Co. to pull it off.

 

[BringTheReign]

A lot of guys come to LA in the offseason, especially Brisson clients, but if it was indeed Jack I wouldn't write too much into it. I think most teams welcome NHL'ers from out of town to use their facilities, it's a nice place to get some work in before being stuck in the cold for most of the season. I think an even bigger draw is the anonymity.

Yup, Eichel might be a pro athlete, but he and most NHLers just look like the thousands of guys who play beach volleyball and surf around the South Bay.

 

[Ray Martyniuk]

Given the source, take it with a bucket of salt , in lieu of grain, but Friedman did mention BRisson in LA meetings and such. Could be another team but maybe not

HockeyBuzz.com - Eklund - Developing: Kings/Sabres Deal Being Worked. Eichel. Six total pieces. (E4)


Per a source, “The agent for Eichel is trying to broker a deal that would send Eichel and Sabres D Robert Hagg to LA for 4 players, 3 of whom are expected to make a push to be in the Kings opening night roster (1 was for some of this past of last season). The other player is the Kings next first round pick.”

The source continued, “….this has been discussed in the summer but the Kings look like they would like to sweep in and finish this. They are comfortable with the current Eichel health issues.”

LA doesn't have room to take the Eichel and Hagg contracts unless some pretty big contracts are going the other way and I don't think the Sabres are stupid enough to do that...they can have Yafallo,Brown,Vilardi,Roy,Kupari,Thomas,Ingram,Madden,Dudas,Laferriere,Moveare,Frk,Grans and Nousiainen! Plus a first rounder in 2022 and 2024 and some more of our prospects not named Byfield, Turcotte, Chromiak, Clarke, Pinelli, Kaliyev,Fagemo,Faber, Simontaival, Parik, Kirsanov, Helenius, Spence, Lee and Markkonen

 

[Piston]

Sounds like a planned leak to get Vegas or the Rangers to increase their offer. The signing of Danault pretty much took us out of the running. With Kopitar, Danault (both with NTCs) and Eichel, where does Byfield play?

 

[Stimpythecat]

I will believe it when I see it.

As Telos stated, it would require a 180 from Blake, extreme cap gymnastics requiring one of brown/quick to go to buffalo, and assuredly require blake to completely repudiate the promises he made to Danault.

 

[KingTech]

1st 22 Turcotte .Iafallo. Kemp Bjornfot for Echiel and Hagg at 50%

 

[Stimpythecat]

Cap doesn't work.

Out:
Kempe at $2
Iafallo at $4
Bjornfot $.9
cap space $2.7
_____________
$9.6

In:
Eichel at $10
Hagg at $.8
_____________
$10.8

$1.2 million short on a 22 man roster.