Confirmed Signing with Link: [EDM] Oilers sign Connor McDavid (8 years, $12.5M AAV)

[VainGretzky]

Good deal for the Oilers. They're still in cap hell moving forward. How far into cap hell will be established by Draisaitl.

Draisaitl should not matter now since you stated no way McDavid signs for anything less than max salary . lol http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=133727953&postcount=283

 

[Starat327]

At the risk of getting off topic a little bit there's a fundamental error here in this logic in that you haven't factored in the basic cost of living expense line. That makes the difference between % of disposable income vs % of total income.

Say for easy math's sake you need 25k a year to have a minimum basic standard quality of life. An average joe making 50k a year losing 6% ($3,000) is actually losing 12% of his disposable income compared to McDavid losing 6% off his 100M which is probably 6.1% of his disposable income. That's even before you factor in taxes and such because that 6% loss means less to McDavid since he pays higher taxes. It's not at all the same thing.

Going back to hockey though I will agree that there is a risk premium that hockey players get paid and SHOULD get paid because of the injury risk and the fact that they have to plan to survive life after their hockey career which ends just as most people are taking off in their careers. For most of the top players in this league though that's not an issue if they invest wisely.

Sure, if you want to go full finance. But Mcdavid is going to pay a lot more in taxes than the average Joe as well. And again, I said it was equal paycuts. Not equal income. Both player and average Joe lose 6% of pay.


As for the person who mentioned an ivory back scratcher - again - he's earned the right. Maybe the average Joe should have given up their teenage years to hone a craft and become exceptionally good at a sport, or acting, or any other high paying job.

 

[Regal]

Sure, if you want to go full finance. But Mcdavid is going to pay a lot more in taxes than the average Joe as well. And again, I said it was equal paycuts. Not equal income. Both player and average Joe lose 6% of pay.


As for the person who mentioned an ivory back scratcher - again - he's earned the right. Maybe the average Joe should have given up their teenage years to hone a craft and become exceptionally good at a sport, or acting, or any other high paying job.

The point is equal percentages are not going to have close to the same effect in terms of quality of life.

And while yes, he's earned the right to make whatever someone's willing to pay him, and people shouldn't be so quick to dismiss 6 million dollars, it's hilarious when people talk about rich people as if their success is all about hard work, and not also in large part due to luck and circumstance. McDavid likely didn't give up his childhood anymore than a 5th rounder who doesn't make it and has to get a real job.

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

I'm just happy that it was less than originally reported.
The league is screwed if there is a huge escalation of salaries.
The fans are the ones who need to generate the additional revenue to afford jumps in salaries.

It's pathetic that a lock out is all but certain in 2020 and the NHL and NHLPA can't get their acts together to protect the game, the players, the owners and the fans.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

I'm just happy that it was less than originally reported.
The league is screwed if there is a huge escalation of salaries.
The fans are the ones who need to generate the additional revenue to afford jumps in salaries.

It's pathetic that a lock out is all but certain in 2020 and the NHL and NHLPA can't get their acts together to protect the game, the players, the owners and the fans.

you realize if McDavid makes more money, that just means less for someone else? there's a thing called a salary cap and 50/50 revenue sharing
the pie isn't increasing, just the share

 

[JuniorNelson]

Edmonton looking very stylish this Summer, especially when compared to frumpy Canucks.

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

you realize if McDavid makes more money, that just means less for someone else? there's a thing called a salary cap and 50/50 revenue sharing
the pie isn't increasing, just the share

That's also a bad thing.
The salary cap continues to increase and my season tickets go up every year.

 

[rikker]

good for him. i love this kid.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

That's also a bad thing.
The salary cap continues to increase and my season tickets go up every year.

so do my taxes doubt that'll ever change

and thats not McDavid's fault and his salary has nothing to do with cap increases

 

[Oilers Propagandist]

McDavid is worth $20million annually. He is so much more to our team and city than just his play on the ice. Oilers fans are all fortunate to be watching him 82 games a year and more for the next 9 seasons

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

so do my taxes doubt that'll ever change

and thats not McDavid's fault and his salary has nothing to do with cap increases

I'm not blaming anything on McDavid or anyone person.
The NHL is a gate driven league.
The NFL's tv contract pays for everything and the tickets sales are gravy on top of that. If the NHL had a tv contract like that it would be less of a concern.

Why did Ottawa have empty seats at home games in the 3rd round of the playoffs? (besides the location of their arena)
Because the tickets cost too much.
If the top players salary jumps from 10.5 or 11 million to 12.5 million that has a ripple effect.
All following contracts fall in line.
It's an arms race the other teams will eventually be forced to pay comparable contracts to resign players.
The numbers go up.
If the salary cap never changed then this would become a situation of have and have nots. Guys making 10+ million per season and a bunch of other guys making around league minimum.

But the cap keeps going up and to facilitate this the teams raise ticket prices at a much larger rate then inflation.

The days of owners screwing over players is well past. (50's - 60's)
Many players got screwed on stupid things like bonuses (sit a player for the last 2 or 3 games of the year to prevent them from getting to what ever statistical measure triggered a bonus).

Anything more than $5 million a season is excessive and can't be justified in the context of the rest of the world.
If Crosby and McDavid etc made 5 million each and every one else fell somewhere else below that they would do just fine.

If players salaries (owners profits) means that the average family of five could never afford to go to a game then that isn't really a good thing. Without fans there is ZERO money for pro athletes. If McDavid could get a joe job for $60k a year or play pro hockey for $100k and those were his only choices... he'd be playing hockey for $100k.

Worst of all is after we get raked over the coals and exploited to pay the bills we will have the privilege of another lockout in 2020. While billionaires and millionaires fight over how to split up our money with little regard for the integrity of the game.

Players and agents are all getting ready.
How many contracts have included 2020 provisions in bonuses to reduce any loss the player would incur by not playing.
I wouldn't be surprised if we don't lose an entire season this time.

What other pro sport has had back to back to back lockouts at the end of CBA's? If their going to rip us off this bad then the least they could do is keep the frick'n league running all the time.

 

[KevSkillz4]

This contract sound like a "buy-out" in 4 years.

 

[McFlyingV]

Worth every penny. I would pay him 15M$/year without hesitation to play in Montreal.

As would I, which is why most Oilers fans are happy. He could have demanded more money, and he even gave us 8 years. You'd have to completely out of touch to not see this as a great deal for Edmonton.

 

[OmniSens]

This contract sound like a "buy-out" in 4 years.

What?

 

[powerstuck]

This contract sound like a "buy-out" in 4 years.

What?

He must be talking about Price's contract.

 

[Slimmy]

Excellent deal orchestrated by Chiarelli and McDavid.

"In it for the long haul, I want to win here".

There is not another player in the league who brings fans out of their seats like McDavid.

FWIW Button just said the Oilers are set up for the next 4 years about any cap issues, defence is locked down at a reasonable price.

Erik Karsson. And yes, Karlsson is the better player.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

This contract sound like a "buy-out" in 4 years.

 

[Jumptheshark]

No one can complain about this deal

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

No one can complain about this deal

Well, there's nothing we can really complain here.

 

[Johnnybegood13]

Draisaitl should not matter now since you stated no way McDavid signs for anything less than max salary . lol http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=133727953&postcount=283

Didn't you claim $10.5m per for 8 years? he was about as close as you were.

 

[Deplorable Lenny]

Erik Karsson. And yes, Karlsson is the better player.

Nope. No chance.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Erik Karsson. And yes, Karlsson is the better player.

Karlsson doesn't bring fans out of their seats like McDavid does - he'd have to fill them first.

 

[Les Pantalons Fancie]

You own a crystal ball? Oiler fans said the same thing when Eberle/RNH were handed big $$ on their second contracts...how's that looking now?

Paying these kids ridiculous amounts of money before they prove anything is beyond stupid and as every year goes by it gets worst.

Not sure which team you cheer for, but nevertheless...... Every team will have contracts that seem higher than they should be... EVERY team, your team included. Reason being, to have them locked up and to not have to worry about losing them to any offer sheet and to have the first years of UFA.

Oh! love how you use Nugent Hopkins/Eberle as examples So you put Draisaitl in the same talent pool as them?.... with his size/vision and all! Please

 

[ManofSteel55]

You own a crystal ball? Oiler fans said the same thing when Eberle/RNH were handed big $$ on their second contracts...how's that looking now?

Paying these kids ridiculous amounts of money before they prove anything is beyond stupid and as every year goes by it gets worst.

It would be looking fine if there was no salary cap and we didn't have better players coming up. Eberle is paid fairly for the offense he brings, albeit he is now being paid by the Islanders for his 65 points, and Nuge is paid fairly for the two way game he brings and offense he has brought in every season but the last.

 

[A91]

Erik Karsson. And yes, Karlsson is the better player.

Get back to me when he wins league MVP in his second year. Oops too late for that.
McDavid is a tier above EK my friend.