Proposal: EDM - NSH

[TFHockey]

Alexander Carrier (RHD, 27, pending UFA $2.5 Million AAV)




Cody Ceci (RHD, 30, One more year after this season @ $3.25 Million AAV)
Oilers 1st 2024
4th round 2025 Conditional pick TBD, if the Oilers make the WCF pick moves up to 2nd round (or something like that, worth talking about)


Carrier is a little under sized but plays heavy minutes for the Preds. He is an upgrade over Ceci. Oilers gain a little cap space to.

Preds get a RHD in return with a short contract and a couple of decent picks.

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[Armourboy]

Definitely would be worth considering from the Nashville side.

I have zero clue what Trotz is looking to do with Fabbro and Carrier and I don't think anyone else does either.

 

[TFHockey]

Definitely would be worth considering from the Nashville side.

I have zero clue what Trotz is looking to do with Fabbro and Carrier and I don't think anyone else does either.

I like that Carrier, despite his small size, plays a lot against elite opponents.

 

[Soundgarden]

I'd do it. Seems like we're gonna get rid of Fabbro, Carrier and/or Barrie. Would be great if we got a 1st.

 

[triggrman]

I’d do it too, and try to flip Ceci

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Does Nashville have any retention slots left?

 

[Soundgarden]

Does Nashville have any retention slots left?

One this year.

 

[TFHockey]

Does Nashville have any retention slots left?

They don't have to retain on Carrier.

They're retaining on Ekholm and Johansen.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

They don't have to retain on Carrier.

They're retaining on Ekholm and Johansen.

I think getting retention on Carrier would help the Oilers a lot if they can increase the value a bit, even if they dont use up that cap space, it reduces the bonus overages onto next year.

 

[TFHockey]

I think getting retention on Carrier would help the Oilers a lot if they can increase the value a bit, even if they dont use up that cap space, it reduces the bonus overages onto next year.

If the Oilers clear enough cap space but DON'T land a top 6 winger they could eat the Brown signing bonus this year and not get bit by it next year.

 

[Top 6 Spaling]

I like Carrier, but no doubt I'd do it from Nashville's perspective.

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

Despite the protestations of HF, Ceci could return an asset on his own. The OP proposal doesn't return any value for him, so send him out in a separate deal to get back a pick/prospect to either fill the cupboards or use as trade capital.

This all assumes that Carrier is an upgrade that warrants sending out a 1st +.

 

[Seachd]

I have a couple issues:

1) Holland doesn’t trade 1sts for UFAs.

2) I think it’s debateable if Carrier is much better than Ceci at all, let alone that much.

3) And so, if they’re trading a 1st, I’d like them to aim higher.

I think Carrier would be a fine addition at the right price, but I don’t think that’s the right price.

 

[McDoused]

So we give up a 1st round pick for a meh ufa? Hell no.

 

[Three On Zero]

So we give up a 1st round pick for a meh ufa? Hell no.

Also dumping Ceci

 

[McDoused]

Also dumping Ceci

I'm living in crazy world here where the Oilers have to pay a 1st round pick to dump Ceci at the same time where Philadelphia is asking for a 1st for Walker.

If it costs you a 1st to trade Ceci, you just keep him. Hes a decent defenceman, we are only moving him because we want to upgrade.

 

[Three On Zero]

I'm living in crazy world here where the Oilers have to pay a 1st round pick to dump Ceci at the same time where Philadelphia is asking for a 1st for Walker.

If it costs you a 1st to trade Ceci, you just keep him. Hes a decent defenceman, we are only moving him because we want to upgrade.

It’s not a 1st to trade him, he’s just an asset with little to no value outside of Edmonton fans

Ceci is the kind of guy you would want as a limited bottom pair/#7 guy on a team with contender aspirations

 

[GhostfaceWu]

Hell no what a waste of a first

 

[andora]

If the Oilers clear enough cap space but DON'T land a top 6 winger they could eat the Brown signing bonus this year and not get bit by it next year.

Have they accumulated enough through the year though? I don't think it's a matter of just having the space on the day that it's paid out it's about having a crude enough just like Trading

I could be wrong

 

[GOilers88]

It’s not a 1st to trade him, he’s just an asset with little to no value outside of Edmonton fans

Ceci is the kind of guy you would want as a limited bottom pair/#7 guy on a team with contender aspirations

I know it'll be an unpopular opinion for pretty much everyone except our board, but I think he is a damn fine bottom pairing anchor who can absolutely play on the second pairing if needed. The fact that he's survived on a top pairing in Edmonton for so long is a good indicator that he can play, but he's in a role way over his head here. I think he gets a lot of undue hate here because of how he was in Ottawa, but he's honestly been just fine as a middle pairing guy for the Oilers, those silly charts be damned.

I also say this as someone who was less than thrilled about his signing to begin with, but I appreciate what he brings and acknowledge he's also being put in the worst position possible by the Oilers and is keeping his head above water for the most part.

One could argue he's overpaid for where I think he should realistically slot in, and I won't disagree. But I don't think it's by a lot given what he's actually had to do here. Different story on another team.

 

[ryan callahan]

I don't think Carrier is worth a 1st. 2nd and some B or C asset yes, but 1st is too steep for half a year of a guy who would be a good #5 on EDM.

 

[Three On Zero]

I know it'll be an unpopular opinion for pretty much everyone except our board, but I think he is a damn fine bottom pairing anchor who can absolutely play on the second pairing if needed. The fact that he's survived on a top pairing in Edmonton for so long is a good indicator that he can play, but he's in a role way over his head here. I think he gets a lot of undue hate here because of how he was in Ottawa, but he's honestly been just fine as a middle pairing guy for the Oilers, those silly charts be damned.

I also say this as someone who was less than thrilled about his signing to begin with, but I appreciate what he brings and acknowledge he's also being put in the worst position possible by the Oilers and is keeping his head above water for the most part.

One could argue he's overpaid for where I think he should realistically slot in, and I won't disagree. But I don't think it's by a lot given what he's actually had to do here. Different story on another team.

Fair assessment

 

[Armourboy]

I don't think Carrier is worth a 1st. 2nd and some B or C asset yes, but 1st is too steep for half a year of a guy who would be a good #5 on EDM.

Except in this case part of it is to also take Ceci. I get that he may not be a true dump in the sense, but for us he absolutely is. He provides no real value yet we need to pay him the following season.

Also as we've learned with Barrie planning on later assets out of a guy at the trade deadline is not a guarantee.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Brutal OP.

1st, conditional 2nd to go from Ceci to a rental Carrier?

Now I see why some on the HFOil say you’re not an actual fan.

 

[Draiskull]

Would be closer if it was Fabbro because he would not be a rental and has some past chemistry with Ekholm.