PTO: [EDM] F Jake Virtanen signs PTO with the Oilers (released)

[eviohh26]

As an oilers fan, i dont care if hes signed or not. The oilers demolished the flames last year and they are way worse this year, thats what matters. the pacific is ours and theres a good chance the stanley cup is as well

Thanks for the laugh. I really needed that today.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

As an oilers fan, i dont care if hes signed or not. The oilers demolished the flames last year and they are way worse this year, thats what matters. the pacific is ours and theres a good chance the stanley cup is as well

Based.

 

[Beerfish]

You're smart

His comment was 100% valid. The oilers have done so before. Totally over value players who have a bit of success with mcdavid.

Did you somehow forget what we (the Oilers) just has to give up to get rid of Kassian?

As for Virtanen, the guy was on a pto and has done exactly nothing at all in ex games. If he gets signed Holland is back at his stupid low end of the roster moves.

Zero justification for this guy being around.

 

[TheNumber4]

His comment was 100% valid. The oilers have done so before. Totally over value players who have a bit of success with mcdavid.

Did you somehow forget what we (the Oilers) just has to give up to get rid of Kassian?

As for Virtanen, the guy was on a pto and has done exactly nothing at all in ex games. If he gets signed Holland is back at his stupid low end of the roster moves.

Zero justification for this guy being around.

“Done exactly nothing at all” is not an accurate statement.

 

[23Monahan]

“Done exactly nothing at all” is not an accurate statement.

You are correct. An assist against an ahl roster certainly is something.

 

[bucks_oil]

Based on effort and accomplishment this preseason:
Drai
McD
Holloway
Kane
Hyman
Nuge
Yamamoto
Foegele
McLeod
Ryan
Pulju
Shore
Benson
Malone
Virtanen
Bourgault

But when you factor in talent... damn... it's gonna come down to the wire unfortunately. I really wouldn't keep him, but you could easily see them slotting him into that top 12.

And if the Oilers have a trade of a forward up their sleeve (as some have suggested they do), then he's a near certainty, unless said trade has a forward coming back.

Holland has a big decision to make and I'm hoping he sends a message to the team... effort matters above all else. Keeping Virtanen would be a big step back for a team that's trying to establish that message.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Based on effort and accomplishment this preseason:
Drai
McD
Holloway
Kane
Hyman
Nuge
Yamamoto
Foegele
McLeod
Ryan
Pulju
Shore
Benson
Malone
Virtanen
Bourgault

But when you factor in talent... damn... it's gonna come down to the wire unfortunately. I really wouldn't keep him, but you could easily see them slotting him into that top 12.

And if the Oilers have a trade of a forward up their sleeve (as some have suggested they do), then he's a near certainty, unless said trade has a forward coming back.

Holland has a big decision to make and I'm hoping he sends a message to the team... effort matters above all else. Keeping Virtanen would be a big step back for a team that's trying to establish that message.

At this point, I'm just hoping that if they sign him, its for league minimum, and they send him to the AHL to earn his way back up before they gift him a spot. He clearly hasn't been in the top 13, so he shouldn't get a spot.

 

[MessierII]

If they do sign him it will be to play in the minors to start. Unless he does something crazy these next couple of games. Holland made it pretty clear what he was looking for out of him and he hasn’t delivered.

 

[Rubi]

I get the feeling that some Oilers fans are slowly becoming resigned to the expectation that Virtanen will play for the Oilers this year.... whether they like it or not or he deserves it or not.

 

[bucks_oil]

At this point, I'm just hoping that if they sign him, its for league minimum, and they send him to the AHL to earn his way back up before they gift him a spot. He clearly hasn't been in the top 13, so he shouldn't get a spot.

Agree... that would be better. Some Kassian repentment treatment.

 

[duul]

I get the feeling that some Oilers fans are slowly becoming resigned to the expectation that Virtanen will play for the Oilers this year.... whether they like it or not or he deserves it or not.

He has shown he's 10x the player Shore or Benson or the other fringe guys are at the NHL level. One training camp doesn't change that especially given him tumultuous last year or two.

The org is willing to give him time to get back up to speed because if he does, he's a valuable option in our bottom 6. It's as simple as that. First round picks with skill get all the leeway in the world. His pass to Foegele shows he has great skill, he just doesn't have the legs right now. A month in the AHL could do him well, and benefit our team long term.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

This would be a sneaky good signing if it happens.
I could easily see Jake cracking 20 points if he plays with McDrai all year and gets second unit PP time.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

This would be a sneaky good signing if it happens.
I could easily see Jake cracking 20 points if he plays with McDrai all year and gets second unit PP time.

He's not getting anywhere near McDrai. The Oilers have depth now, and Hyman has shifted to RW. If he signs - and I hope to god he doesn't because he's been terrible - its as 4th line/AHL fodder.

 

[ManofSteel55]

He has shown he's 10x the player Shore or Benson or the other fringe guys are at the NHL level. One training camp doesn't change that especially given him tumultuous last year or two.

The org is willing to give him time to get back up to speed because if he does, he's a valuable option in our bottom 6. It's as simple as that. First round picks with skill get all the leeway in the world. His pass to Foegele shows he has great skill, he just doesn't have the legs right now. A month in the AHL could do him well, and benefit our team long term.

When you are on a PTO it should.

This would be a sneaky good signing if it happens.
I could easily see Jake cracking 20 points if he plays with McDrai all year and gets second unit PP time.

20 points playing with McDrai would be horrible stats.

 

[BostonBob]

This would be a sneaky good signing if it happens.
I could easily see Jake cracking 20 points if he plays with McDrai all year and gets second unit PP time.

20 whole points !!!!!!

 

[Rubi]

This would be a sneaky good signing if it happens.
I could easily see Jake cracking 20 points if he plays with McDrai all year and gets second unit PP time.

Subtle. Very Subtle.
Maybe too subtle for some?

 

[TheNumber4]

You are correct. An assist against an ahl roster certainly is something.

And other things that will require watching the game and not box score

 

[Beef Cake]

Smartest thing the oilers could do is give him 2x750k and place him on waivers and get him into the AHL for a year. Literally zero risk, get him out of the spotlight, no way he gets claimed. Let him re-develop his game and grind it out and earn an NHL call up and next year you've got him on a contract year

 

[belair]

When you are on a PTO it should.


20 points playing with McDrai would be horrible stats.

When you're on a PTO as a bottom six option it's probably better to show you're not a meat head. A bad penalty stands out a lot more than a goal in a meaningless game.

You're talking about a guy that you expect 15-25 points out of over an 82 game season. That part of the roster requires 'safe' players.

 

[ManofSteel55]

When you're on a PTO as a bottom six option is probably better to show your not a meat head. A bad penalty stands out a lot more than a goal in a meaningless game.

You're talking about a guy that you expect 15-25 points out of over an 82 game season. That part of the roster requires 'safe' players.

The post I quoted suggested he would get 20 points playing with McDrai. Not bottom six. A lot of garbage AHL players could do better than 20 points with those two guys.

 

[GrumpyKoala]

He have not done anything significant so far but one year, two way deal, at league minimum would not be in the cringe territory.

 

[SnipeShowJB11]

You are correct. An assist against an ahl roster certainly is something.

I mean, he could follow the newly brought in leader down South and at least take Kaner and the boys to a stripclub. Oh wait, that is only during the playoffs.

 

[94 Oil Drops]

I get the feeling that some Oilers fans are slowly becoming resigned to the expectation that Virtanen will play for the Oilers this year.... whether they like it or not or he deserves it or not.

Benson (who was playing very well this pre-season) got hurt which probably helps Virtanen's odds of squeaking on to roster. TBH I don't really care if he gets a job in Edmonton or not. Even if he signs, he's probably getting a 2 way contract. If he decides to be a dough head in the dressing room, he can be sent down and buried in the AHL. It's a situation without consequences regardless of the outcome. I just don't see the big reason why everyone is so worried.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

Probably he’ll be cut and he hasn’t shown much. But let’s not lie and say he hasn’t done anything at all. He’s had a couple of impactful plays in a sea of mostly nothing.

That's his entire career right there

 

[TheNumber4]

That's his entire career right there

Probably. But the expectations are different this time around. If he turns into a 20 point 4th liner who doesn’t hurt you defensively, he’s already covered the bet cost of FREE.