Does Matthews leave for the US after his contract expires?

[ijuka]

Toronto has never had a problem resigning the players they want to keep when they have cap space. Matthews will sign the highest AAV in the league next summer, It won't be suspenseful at all.

Marner and Nylander will be much more interesting.

But if that's the case, why is Matthews signed for the worst possible term? Why not 8 years? Why not 4 years? Why the exact 5-year term that allows him to go UFA as early as possible?

 

[ACC1224]

Sundin, McCabe, Kaberle, Tucker and who else is this list even right been so long I have a hard time remembering
Kubina?

It was Kubina. They still had a shot at the playoffs that year and wanted to go for it.

But if that's the case, why is Matthews signed for the worst possible term? Why not 8 years? Why not 4 years? Why the exact 5-year term that allows him to go UFA as early as possible?

Growing pains with a green GM.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

I don't see it

He's trending to be an all time-great player and Toronto will give him whatever he wants to stay and then some, he seems to like the Toronto lifestyle. He already might be the best player to play for the Maple Leafs, I believe he wants the challenge of bringing a cup back to the city

 

[WarriorofTime]

But if that's the case, why is Matthews signed for the worst possible term? Why not 8 years? Why not 4 years? Why the exact 5-year term that allows him to go UFA as early as possible?

Best position himself to sign an 8-year deal for the most money the instant he is UFA eligible, maximize earnings.

 

[Rob Brown]

But if that's the case, why is Matthews signed for the worst possible term? Why not 8 years? Why not 4 years? Why the exact 5-year term that allows him to go UFA as early as possible?

It's been posted in here like 5 times.

 

[NoTeeth]

Toronto has never had a problem resigning the players they want to keep when they have cap space. Matthews will sign the highest AAV in the league next summer, It won't be suspenseful at all.

Marner and Nylander will be much more interesting.

And they have over 50+ million in cap available coming up. Cap is not an issue.

It's been posted in here like 5 times.

Also, the 5 years was longer term than almost any other RFAs that signed at the time. Tkachuk getting 3 years really worked out well for calgary

 

[centipede2233]

So if you can’t win a round with 11.6 mil caphit matthews, do you expect to win a cup with 13 mil+ matthews? I happen to know the answer, do you?

 

[Rob Brown]

So if you can’t win a round with 11.6 mil caphit matthews, do you expect to win a cup with 13 mil+ matthews? I happen to know the answer, do you?

No, I don't think you know the answer, considering you aren't able to see into the future.

And if you 'can't win with Matthews', why would any other team want him? Wouldn't that make this whole thread pointless?

 

[Golden_Jet]

And they have over 50+ million in cap available coming up. Cap is not an issue.


Also, the 5 years was longer term than almost any other RFAs that signed at the time. Tkachuk getting 3 years really worked out well for calgary

They have 50 million in cap space sure, but that is with 4 players signed to a contract. So after Matthews and Nylander supposedly sign ,that’s 6 players signed with 27 million left. Call it 30 million with cap increase.
So 14-17 players needed. So average of 2 million for those guys.

 

[NoTeeth]

They have 50 million in cap space sure, but that is with 4 players signed to a contract. So after Matthews and Nylander supposedly sign ,that’s 6 players signed with 27 million left. Call it 30 million with cap increase.
So 14-17 players needed. So average of 2 million for those guys.

Again, great cap situation. One of the very best in the NHL. If Leafs get knocked for cap hell more than any team, they deserve kudos for having so much cap available.

 

[centipede2233]

No, I don't think you know the answer, considering you aren't able to see into the future.

And if you 'can't win with Matthews', why would any other team want him? Wouldn't that make this whole thread pointless?

Winning the cup isn’t about just star players, it’s about star players being able to outperform there caphit. you tell me I can’t look into the future. I say, in order to predict the future, you need to look at the past. And the past has said the highest caphit center to win a cup is Malkin’s 9.5 mil. i hear the narrative “but it’s ok to overpay your star players”. And I say, show me an even slightly overpaid star on a cup team in the cap era, I’ll wait….

 

[NoTeeth]

So if you can’t win a round with 11.6 mil caphit matthews, do you expect to win a cup with 13 mil+ matthews? I happen to know the answer, do you?

It's a hard cap league. It's not like Leafs have a big advantage. What does it matter how much Matthews makes? It's not MLB. There are non playoff teams paying more for forwards than the Leafs are.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I think it depends on how this season goes.

If the Leafs bumble out in the first round again; I think there will be some serious introspection as far as whether or not he wants his legacy tied to a team that can't get out of the first round. I do think there would be some attraction for him to go to LA or NY where he can do his fashion stuff with more freedom.

 

[Rob Brown]

Winning the cup isn’t about just star players, it’s about star players being able to outperform there caphit. you tell me I can’t look into the future. I say, in order to predict the future, you need to look at the past. And the past has said the highest caphit center to win a cup is Malkin’s 9.5 mil. i hear the narrative “but it’s ok to overpay your star players”. And I say, show me an even slightly overpaid star on a cup team in the cap era, I’ll wait….

You're sort of proving my point. If Matthews is overpaid and teams can't win with him, why does this thread exist? You're arguing that he isn't worth the money because he doesn't 'outperform his caphit', so why would any other team want to sign him? Better shut down this thread.

 

[NoTeeth]

Winning the cup isn’t about just star players, it’s about star players being able to outperform there caphit. you tell me I can’t look into the future. I say, in order to predict the future, you need to look at the past. And the past has said the highest caphit center to win a cup is Malkin’s 9.5 mil. i hear the narrative “but it’s ok to overpay your star players”. And I say, show me an even slightly overpaid star on a cup team in the cap era, I’ll wait….

Again, small sample size. First 10+ in cap era was 2015-16 season, then with Covid star cap hits declined. They didn't go up. How much can you put into this? Also, is 9.5 that much different from 10?

 

[BlueBaron]

It's nice that HF loves Austin as much as we do.

Obviously the odds heavily favor him staying a Leaf a long time but it's nice you guys found a support group.

 

[Rob Brown]

It's nice that HF loves Austin as much as we do.

Obviously the odds heavily favor him staying a Leaf a long time but it's nice you guys found a support group.

The vast majority of the posters here that shit on Matthews over and over would absolutely love him if he played for any other team. Instead they take their hatred of his team and apply it to one of the best players in the league. It's a shame.

I'm interested in seeing how much some American posters here will struggle to cheer for him if he plays in the Olympics for the US.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Again, great cap situation. One of the very best in the NHL. If Leafs get knocked for cap hell more than any team, they deserve kudos for having so much cap available.

Ya looks awesome, 2 million each for 15 players.

 

[BlueBaron]

The vast majority of the posters here that shit on Matthews over and over would absolutely love him if he played for any other team. Instead they take their hatred of his team and apply it to one of the best players in the league. It's a shame.

I'm interested in seeing how much some American posters here will struggle to cheer for him if he plays in the Olympics for the US.

I find US fans are generally sane about Matthews.

 

[NoTeeth]

Ya looks awesome, 2 million each for 15 players.

How has that worked for people every summer "Leafs only have x cap for x players. Nylander is getting traded".

 

[Rob Brown]

Ya looks awesome, 2 million each for 15 players.

This you?

'Lol half the threads are started by Leafs in the mains. They bring it on themselves.'

Funny, here you are in another Leafs thread that wasn't started by a Leafs fan.

 

[Golden_Jet]

How has that worked for people every summer "Leafs only have x cap for x players. Nylander is getting traded".

Nothing to do with what I said, strike 3 buddy.

 

[WarriorofTime]

And they have over 50+ million in cap available coming up. Cap is not an issue.

And a whole roster to sign? What do you mean "cap is not an issue"... Cap is always an issue. As "neat" as it will be for Tavares to come off the books in a few years, they are going to need to basically re-work the entire defense while also hoping Rielly can stay a Number 1 Defenseman into his 30s.

 

[NoTeeth]

And a whole roster to sign? What do you mean "cap is not an issue"... Cap is always an issue. As "neat" as it will be for Tavares to come off the books in a few years, they are going to need to basically re-work the entire defense while also hoping Rielly can stay a Number 1 Defenseman into his 30s.

So Leafs are screwed again?

 

[WeThreeKings]

And a whole roster to sign? What do you mean "cap is not an issue"... Cap is always an issue. As "neat" as it will be for Tavares to come off the books in a few years, they are going to need to basically re-work the entire defense while also hoping Rielly can stay a Number 1 Defenseman into his 30s.

He's not even a number 1 defenseman now. The Leafs erred by extending Rielly at that salary. He's a points sponge off a talented forward group but the rest of his game isn't good enough to be a 1 on a contender.