Value of: Dobson's 8 years extension this summer
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leetch99
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He keeps making the nice passes in OT to the opposition he won't get 10 . Has great offensive skills but needs some work on his D . The kid can rack up the assists though as his high point total indicates .
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That’s a hot take from a single, fairly meaningless, regular season game.
Here’s an even hotter take that covers more games and is more relevant for the playoffs.
On another note, how ironic is it that the majority of the posts so far are from Rangers and Leafs fans? Lurk much?
hamzarocks
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As an outsider I cant see why a player would squeeze every last $ out of a team
As a fan of the leafs my teams core guys made this type of decision as rfas/ufa and they had a lot of vitrol and hatred + increased expectations that were super challenging to live up to
Taking 9.5 x 8 = 76M
Vs
Taking 11M x 8 = 88M
For 1.5M extra per year, your risking killing the good will of your teams fans, have raised expectations a tier above, have hurt your reputation slightly at best, and have likelu hurt your teams long-term window as ceiling for contract shifts based on your deal.
For your panthers, Tkachuk heing at 9.5M vs say 11.5M being an example. At 11.5M expectations are even higher, cao space lost hurts his chances to win a cup, and every poor stretch of subpar play is overanalyzed (see marner the first 35 games this year)
If I was a superstar player who was ablr and wanted to extend a L/T deal with my drafted/developed organization,
I would take ~85-90% of what I believe my value is to the team. If I am a 10M player I'd take 8.5 (reinhart for example) to be able to stay in an org I love playing for, for whos fans love me, and who can use the cap savings from my 10-15% discount + likely other core level players on my team to add a quality 5-6M supportinf core piece to help me win a cup
Dobson taking 9.5M x 8 would be perfect deal to set himself up for generational wealth, while giving back to his team and group. Increases his chances of contention into the future.
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If someone waved 12 million in your face, you're not turning it down.
Taking a discount to help win a cup is the equivalent of betting the amount of the discount on your team winning. Would you bet 12 million that Lou can put together a cup winning team?
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His last negotiation with Sweet Lou was somewhat acrimonious so it could get ugly.
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I'm not about to guess on what he will, but let's not act like there isn't evidence out there to show that it's as good a guess as any. Many Islander players took hometown discounts and every time they stated things like "love the guys in the room", "this is a special group", "we are family" blah blah. I'm not saying he's going to do it, but I also wouldn't question someone who chose that as their answer like it's some real far-fetched scenario.
As far as incentive, things like staying with a team you and area you like, giving the team a better chance to comprise a winning roster, etc. Who knows, but the incentive to take hometown deals exists all around the NHL. I don't get why people make contrary responses like this like they are better at predicting the future than others.
SI90
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He would make the leafs an instant cup contender by filling a void they haven’t ever filled on defense. Thankfully it will never happen
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Unless you are Lou using a burner account, let's say I'm more than a tad bit skeptical that you know anything about the "atmosphere" surrounding the last Dobson negotiation.
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I heard that was actually Cal Clutterbuck. He’ll be available to play on a line with Ryan Reaves very soon. I’m thinking 3 years at $2m for Cal in The Six. He can even bring his buddy Matt Martin for a 2nd stint. Matt gets 4 years at $2.5m.
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If the Sens had Dobson they would sign him 18M a year. Look what they signed Jake Sanderson to and Dobson is a far better dman.
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Lou won't offer him much, he needs room for the incoming 8 year extensions to Brock Nelson and Kyle Palmeiri.
Between 9.5 and 10.75. So you better be sure. Don’t want to have a Chabot contract because you projected his leap this year poorly,
Like when McDavid clowned the whole NY team? I am not being a smart ass. Just showing it happens to the best players from time to time.
They already cheaped out on him with the bridge deal after his 51 point year. Time for long discount deal was 2 years ago. Now it's time to pay the punishment for offering the bridge. That's just how it goes.
miscs75
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He doesn’t want to even recall that Dobson almost made the save of the game trying to recover on that play. He blocked the shot, it bounced off Sorokin and then fluttered in. Then again his only purpose in here was like the other special entitled ones, to crap on the Islanders.
It's going to be in the 10-11M range, and that is assuming that he *wants* to be an Islander long term. I'm an Islander fan, and I'm old enough to remember days where we couldn't be so sanguine about that.
Romanov is also due an extension at the same time, and as they are partners, it will be interesting if both make long term commitments.
This is part of the reason I would like NYI to rebuild the F corps into a more even group ASAP.
Romanov is also due an extension at the same time, and as they are partners, it will be interesting if both make long term commitments.
This is part of the reason I would like NYI to rebuild the F corps into a more even group ASAP.
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I think Lou actually gets it done at like 8.85-9.25M x 8 years
The occasional flub or miscalculation regarding players in closer quarters is simply part of being a defenseman who always has their head up to attack in transition. It happened to every defenseman who has ever played that way .... except Lidstrom who seemed to have otherworldly perceptual and cognitive skills so that he could look at the play & the puck simultaneously.
