Rumor: Deal for Kruger/Shaw & Bickell to EDM?

LordKOTL

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Too much time on my hands maybe, but here's a scenario I thought about. Teuvo is the third line center who continues building on his strong defensive performance from last season, and pairs with Hossa to create a shutdown/secondary scoring line.
TT and Hossa together could help eachother.

So something like:

Schmaltz (if he signs)-Toews-Panik
Panarin-Anisimov-Kane
Hartman-Teravainen-Hossa
Desi-??-??

Sorry for resurrecting this, but if a player wore the Indianhead sweater last season, they cost certainly DID NOT have a strong defensive performance. Maybe passably adequate at best, but we just saw the worst 'hawks Team-D/Puck Possession since 1989.
 

JaegerDice

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Sorry for resurrecting this, but if a player wore the Indianhead sweater last season, they cost certainly DID NOT have a strong defensive performance. Maybe passably adequate at best, but we just saw the worst 'hawks Team-D/Puck Possession since 1989.

I agree with this, but relative to the rest of the team, Teuvo was great defensively.

Working from a -10.96 ZSO%Rel (toughest starts among regulars on the team outside Kruger, Desjardins, Danault, and Hammer) he provided:

+1.01 CF%Rel

+3.02 SF%Rel

+3.13 SCF%Rel

+5.90 HDSCf%Rel


To put that in perspective, all of those numbers are better than every player who played on the top line (aside from Teuvo, obviously), despite the top line seeing easier starts.

Unfortunately for Teuvo, he had a sub-100 PDO (ie, below-average luck) so all that work and performance didn't bring about goals. The nice thing about PDO tho, it tends to even out.
 

Toews2Bickell

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If the cap is expected to remain flat then I can see why Kruger is on the block. Unfortunate the Hawks have gotten hosed by oil prices, dollar rally, etc.
 

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If the cap is expected to remain flat then I can see why Kruger is on the block. Unfortunate the Hawks have gotten hosed by oil prices, dollar rally, etc.


What changed from a couple months back cap wise? Why did Bowman sign him if he wanted to drop him? No one can say he wanted him then but now he does not because nothing has really changed...
 

marco1475

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What changed from a couple months back cap wise? Why did Bowman sign him if he wanted to drop him? No one can say he wanted him then but now he does not because nothing has really changed...

I don't see Kruger being moved either, I think he's too valuable to the team.

Having said that, Kruger took that team-friendly one-year deal last offseason with a verbal agreement of a better contract to come. This could be Bowman's way of repaying that favor - signing Kruger to the promised contract and then trading him ensures that Kruger gets paid, but due to the cap the Hawks won't be the ones paying him ...

Maybe getting rid of Bickell requires a stronger sweetener than just Shaw :/
 

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If the cap is expected to remain flat then I can see why Kruger is on the block. Unfortunate the Hawks have gotten hosed by oil prices, dollar rally, etc.


That was Daley saying that without an escalator. Then, Betteman said $1.5- $2 million higher and a chance to go high because of the Can$ rally. I am expecting around $74 with a high end of $74.8 mil
 

Toews2Bickell

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That was Daley saying that without an escalator. Then, Betteman said $1.5- $2 million higher and a chance to go high because of the Can$ rally. I am expecting around $74 with a high end of $74.8 mil

Phew. Thanks for the clarification.
 

LordKOTL

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I agree with this, but relative to the rest of the team, Teuvo was great defensively.

Working from a -10.96 ZSO%Rel (toughest starts among regulars on the team outside Kruger, Desjardins, Danault, and Hammer) he provided:

+1.01 CF%Rel

+3.02 SF%Rel

+3.13 SCF%Rel

+5.90 HDSCf%Rel


To put that in perspective, all of those numbers are better than every player who played on the top line (aside from Teuvo, obviously), despite the top line seeing easier starts.

Unfortunately for Teuvo, he had a sub-100 PDO (ie, below-average luck) so all that work and performance didn't bring about goals. The nice thing about PDO tho, it tends to even out.
I won't disagree that compared to the rest he wasn't a defensive liability, but bad Team D is bad team D. The real question is if he scales with the rest of the squad: i.e. if the core actually played decent D this past season would T²'s numbers rise with it or stay in place?
 

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