The Zetterberg Era
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So he actually asked for five years, another not so good revelation for team Datsyuk in this process....
How is this team going to tank exactly? Are you going to break Mrazek's legs? Send Larkin to Russia with Datsyuk for a few seasons? Make AA wear cement skates?
Like it or not, this team is too good to be awful.
So he actually asked for five years, another not so good revelation for team Datsyuk in this process....
And eaten the contract for three years. That would have been brilliant.
yes because every team that tanks and rebuilds ends up being good a few years later.
He changed his mind. He also gave this team a ton and helped us accomplish a ton.
I hate this thread. I dislike his decision, but the good far outweighs the bad.
I feel like if we were privy to more information about negotiations, we would have hard feelings for a number of players. Because we've heard from Datsyuk, somehow it makes him worse. But I'm not convinced he actually is.I hate this thread. I dislike his decision, but the good far outweighs the bad.
Is there no mutual rescission that just "erases" a contract when it hasn't even begun yet? Datsyuk signed that while he still had a year, didn't he? Why would the NHL even be worried about players and teams agreeing to that sort of thing *while they're already on contract*?
I can't see what sort of gamesmanship could be done by player or team through such a mechanic. And if there's no gamesmanship, like 15 year front loaded contracts, then I don't see why the NHL would care. And if they let it go through, we wouldn't be on the hook at all.
That said I'm sure the CBA says something about it. It just personally does not make sense to me.
It's about probability. I'm sure there's a non-zero probability for a lot of things. Like winning without elite talent. But you want that elite talent anyway to increase your chances. Your chances of tanking and rebuilding and getting good are higher than it is treading water as a bubble team that squeaks in on the last day of the regular season every year and is knocked out in the first round.
There are no guarantees. Just probabilities.
Winnipeg got the #2 pick and has a roster that is pretty comparable top to bottom talent-wise for what we are looking at icing next year (minus a big addition).
No offseason moves, and an injury to Larkin or Mrazek, and we could be right there.
So he actually asked for five years, another not so good revelation for team Datsyuk in this process....
Holland was pretty clear his agent asked for it. His agent who works on a commission where a 5 year 32 million dollar contract is better than an 3 year 23 million dollar contact. At the same time it's clear that Datsyuk wasn't 100% clear on the details of 35+.
Holland was pretty clear his agent asked for it. His agent who works on a commission where a 5 year 32 million dollar contract is better than an 3 year 23 million dollar contact. At the same time it's clear that Datsyuk wasn't 100% clear on the details of 35+.
They wouldn't have been stuck with any hit. They could have gone to the league together and gotten the contract voided.
I feel like if we were privy to more information about negotiations, we would have hard feelings for a number of players. Because we've heard from Datsyuk, somehow it makes him worse. But I'm not convinced he actually is.
Holland was pretty clear his agent asked for it. His agent who works on a commission where a 5 year 32 million dollar contract is better than an 3 year 23 million dollar contact. At the same time it's clear that Datsyuk wasn't 100% clear on the details of 35+.
The odds are low, no doubt. But the point is that Holland flipping the bird to conventional wisdom, pretending he's the smartest guy in the room by "rebuilding on the fly", has resulted in year after year of no chance of winning a Cup. I'll take low odds over a dead end any day.yes because every team that tanks and rebuilds ends up being good a few years later.
The odds are low, no doubt. But the point is that Holland flipping the bird to conventional wisdom, pretending he's the smartest guy in the room by "rebuilding on the fly", has resulted in year after year of no chance of winning a Cup. I'll take low odds over a dead end any day.
SJ hasn't really ever tanked it and made it to the finals this year.
And is Zetterberg was producing like Thornton, there might be hope for the Wings.
Say nothing of Burns, Pavelski, etc. Just a stronger core roster at every major position.
How is this team going to tank exactly? Are you going to break Mrazek's legs? Send Larkin to Russia with Datsyuk for a few seasons? Make AA wear cement skates?
Like it or not, this team is too good to be awful.
And....
Burns, acquired via trade.
Pavelski, acquired via the 205th overall pick in the draft.
Just more proof that good players exist outside of top 5 picks.
Did Datsyuk draw up the contract and send it in to the NHL for approval?
Yep, The WHOLE thing is Datsyuks doing.
I chose to place the blame on the GM, ya know, that guy whose job it is to plan ahead. The guy who should have thought of every angle with a player who openly announced he wanted to return to Russia before signing the contract.
The whole thing is on Datsyuk, right.
And we did that with Datsyuk, Z, Franzen and others.
It's possible, but it's not something you can bank on realistically.
Not something you would want to bet on for turning you around.
Logan Couture was their best player the entire playoffs and was a top 10 pick. Let's also remember that Burns wa acquired by trading a top 10 pick.