Rumor: Dater: Penguins Interested in Soderberg as a Fallback Option

[Toby Flenderson]

Soderberg at 50% would be interesting. Would that be enough to snag Sprong?

Absolutely not. Soderberg is not a guy that gets you a teams best prospect

 

[JoemAvs]

Absolutely not. Soderberg is not a guy that gets you a teams best prospect

Soderberg @ 2.355 would be one of the biggest bargains in the league for the next 2.5 years...

If the Avs retain that much money, you can bet that they will atleast ask for someone like Sprong in return...
And he would be worth it for a team like PIT easily..

I didn't know Carl was that underrated. Interesting...

 

[belair]

Soderberg for Hagelin, maybe.

 

[Lustaf]

Soderberg for Hagelin, maybe.

Doesn't work, Malkin with Hagelin are feasting on the league. You don't disrupt that right now.

 

[AvsCOL]

Soderberg has had a huge resurgence this year. He's looked good this year, and this coming from someone who wanted him gone all last year. He'd be perfect in a 3C role, and he's a horse on the PK.

 

[JoemAvs]

Soderberg for Hagelin, maybe.

Avs need Soderberg way more than they need Hagelin. Makes no sense for them. We also don't need any capspace at all.
There would have to be a very good sweetener thrown in for it to work which also does not make any sense given how well Hagelin has been doing lately.

If any trade happens, it will be because JR wants to fix his #3C position longterm and is willing to give up something valuable the Avs covet (young high end (probably goalie ) prospect or high picks)...


Dater has his sources. I think by now everyone knows that JR wants to do something. Soda as one of the fallback options for Brassard makes some sense...

There are not many better players available that fit that #3C role as well as he would...

 

[Hockeygod66]

I could see it happen for Sheary or some prospects and picks. I wouldn't be against it with some retention.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Sprong, Maatta, or Hornqvist...wow. I needed a good laugh

 

[Cypher]

Soda and NSH 2nd for Reeves, Cole (to make the cap work) and Pitts 1st

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

This will be a funny thread to look back on if Soda were to get traded to the Pens.


Pens fans have managed to both severely overrate there own prospects while under valuing the player Soderberg is.


At 50% retained, he's gonna bring back a very nice package. Would be one of the best deals in the league.

 

[Extra Texture]

Wow.

The tweet in original post makes some sense. It’s been talked about on this board. The Avs are falling out of the race, he fits the need for pitt, etc.

Then he follows it up with this and you think “Ohhh, THIS is why they call Dater a hack.”

OM is going nowhere. Hornqvist is a playoff speedball. Pens aren’t gonna sacrifice either.

 

[Saints11]

No chance of this happening. Best to shut this thread down.

 

[thewave]

This will be a funny thread to look back on if Soda were to get traded to the Pens.


Pens fans have managed to both severely overrate there own prospects while under valuing the player Soderberg is.


At 50% retained, he's gonna bring back a very nice package. Would be one of the best deals in the league.

Stand up - yes?

 

[M C D A V I D]

Soderberg + 2nd for Sprong

 

[PensandCaps]

I'd do Sheary and Hunwick + 2nd for Soda retained at 20%.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I'd do Sheary and Hunwick + 2nd for Soda retained at 20%.

Seems reasonably fair to me.

I'd like to just flip Hunwick right away for a later pick though.

The 2nd would be the prize for the Avs but Sheary could be a bottom 6 option for us I guess. Blake Comeau replacement perhaps.

 

[Toby Flenderson]

Soderberg has had a huge resurgence this year. He's looked good this year, and this coming from someone who wanted him gone all last year. He'd be perfect in a 3C role, and he's a horse on the PK.

24 points in 55 games. We’ll keep Sprong.

Not saying Soda is bad, just not trading a guy like Sprong for him. And just because he’s on a horrible contract and you retain 50% doesn’t make him any better of a player

 

[Empoleon8771]

Soderberg is still overpaid for the season he's having, he's only on pace for the same amount of points as Sheahan is this year with the Penguins. I'd still hesitate with Soderberg at $3.5 million, to be honest. Now add on it being Dater and I don't believe it at all.

 

[Avs44]

Soderberg is still overpaid for the season he's having, he's only on pace for the same amount of points as Sheahan is this year with the Penguins. I'd still hesitate with Soderberg at $3.5 million, to be honest. Now add on it being Dater and I don't believe it at all.

I don't particularly think he's overpaid. Only 30% offensive zone starts, and 80% of his even strength minutes have come with Matt Nieto and Comeau as his wingers (the other combos to fill the rest of his ES minutes out are Wilson-Comeau, Gabriel Bourque-Nieto, and Bourque-Comeau. He's practically been given next to no even strength opportunity offensively - not with his usage and those linemates. Second in PK minutes among forwards too. He's fulfilled a critical and generally thankless role all year, and he's done a pretty awesome job at it. I'll be really dissapointed if he's moved, barring an absolutely stellar return, or the return of Paul Stastny to Colorado this off-season.

 

[3ladesof5teel]

Don't hate Soderberg as a fallback but obviously as others have said there would need to be retention to make it work. Even so I would assume he would be our 4C with the way Sheehan has been playing.

How much do we want to be paying a 4C retention or not?

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Don't hate Soderberg as a fallback but obviously as others have said there would need to be retention to make it work. Even so I would assume he would be our 4C with the way Sheehan has been playing.

How much do we want to be paying a 4C retention or not?

Lol no. Soderberg easily takes 3C over Sheahan.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Sounds like Pitt floating scare negotiation tactics to Ottawa through the media

 

[AslanRH]

Soda @ 50% and taking back Cap hit with term like Hunwick definitely nets a good piece(s)

Avs should have no semblance of an issue with the cap until 2019-20 season at the earliest which gives them time to sort it out. Even then, <$5m shouldn't be a big deal

 

[3ladesof5teel]

Lol no. Soderberg easily takes 3C over Sheahan.

I don't necessarily agree with that. He has 4 goals and 8 points in his last 10 games. We have 3 lines that are running pretty solid. I wouldn't call him a shoe in to take over the 3C.

 

[JoemAvs]

Sounds like Pitt floating scare negotiation tactics to Ottawa through the media

Highly doubt that. If you want to do that, you certainly don't use Dater for that. You let Friedman or Dreger put the word out. Not Dater who then turns around and riles everyone up with his speculations and limited knowledge of value.

There have been rumors for quite some time that the Pens are looking at #3 Cs and that Soda could be an option for them if the Avs and Pens are able to work things out capwise (which is difficult).

It just makes sense that JR is looking for backup options and asking the Avs about Soda now that it looks like the Avs will be sellers at the deadline.


@ BladesofSteel:

Soda is way better than Sheahan. He is used in a heavy shutdown role for the Avs playing a crapton of PK playing with mostly bottom 6ers..
One good stretch of Sheahan does not wipe out Sodas career achievements. He aside from last years nightmare has been a steady 40+ point guy providing quality D and being able to play the PK very well for us this season. If JR believed that Sheahan was better than that , he wouldn't be looking at Brassard (or Soda)...