Proposal: Dallas-Boston

[Montecristo]

To boston
Joe pavelski

to dallas
1st round pick
Jake debrusk
Jakub lauko


Boston needs secondary scoring. Dallas has taken a forward that fell out of favor from boston before and it worked out alright for them. Lauko is a decent throw in that might excel once hes ready but you can sub in any similar prospect at any position.

joe would have to waive which i think he would? Not sure though, not like hes a career star

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[Dust]

I don't think Pavelski is gonna get anyone a 1st round pick.

 

[Greek_physique]

Pass from Boston..x10

 

[Montecristo]

Wait doesnt pavelski rule?

 

[go4hockey]

Boy you must really like you some Pavelski. That is a big overpayment

 

[Groo]

Pavs has been their best player since he got to Dallas.
Bravo for not trying to get him on the cheap

 

[Mrfenn92]

Don’t see Dallas moving joe at all

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Obvious trolling. What a garbage overpayment.

Actual Bruins fans laugh this deal right off HFBoards.

 

[Montecristo]

Obvious trolling. What a garbage overpayment.

Actual Bruins fans laugh this deal right off HFBoards.

...hey wait a second, im an actual bruins fan. I beat hal gil in bubble hockey back in ‘98 when i was 8 years old so im pretty sure ive got some street cred

 

[Magic Mittens]

On HF older players have no value, but I’d imagine a guy like Pavs who is a proven leader and is money in the playoffs would have big value to most GMs. I’m not saying the deal is fair, but I could see something like that with the pick conditional

That being said I don’t see Dallas moving Pavs, they still have time to climb up the standings and will be getting Radulov and Seguin back eventually

Pavelski also has another year on his contract

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

DeBrusk is not bringing back a big return at the moment. The 1st will probably end up in the mid-20s. Lauko doesn't have a notable pedigree.

At ~1.5 years, Pavelski has the perfect term for his age: a team can get a couple playoff runs out of him without the risk of getting stuck with a cap dump on the backside of a commitment a la Marleau. He's off to an outstanding start after a good playoff.

Is he worth all of that given the flat cap and his very restrictive NTC? It's a touch too high in my opinion, but not crazy. He should have value with 24 points in 21 games.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

To boston
Joe pavelski

to dallas
1st round pick
Jake debrusk
Jakub lauko


Boston needs secondary scoring. Dallas has taken a forward that fell out of favor from boston before and it worked out alright for them. Lauko is a decent throw in that might excel once hes ready but you can sub in any similar prospect at any position.

joe would have to waive which i think he would? Not sure though, not like hes a career star

Counter offer:

DeBrusk for Seguin and a 1st

 

[Unbiased Fan]

Take out Debrusk and it’s fair

 

[Dynamite Time]

Have loved Pavs here in Dallas but that’s a yes from me. He doesn’t have a NTC next season either.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

DeBrusk in every Boston proposal.

 

[izzy]

how is this an overpayment lol

Pavelski at 1.5 years. Not a rental, but not long term so no real danger. He has 24 points in 21 games which is 10 points on any other forward on his team so it’s not like he’s riding shotgun on a hot offence/line.

 

[Bruhin]

Awful. That package would get you a much younger top 6 forward.

 

[Jerkbait]

Obvious trolling. What a garbage overpayment.

Actual Bruins fans laugh this deal right off HFBoards.

Hmmm not so sure... perhaps bruins fan do but joe has been lights out and will bring back a big return which could include a first. Just cause Boston won't doenst mean a team in the East division won't... NYI ?? Philly? Pitt has no 1st to give

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Hmmm not so sure... perhaps bruins fan do but joe has been lights out and will bring back a big return which could include a first. Just cause Boston won't doenst mean a team in the East division won't... NYI ?? Philly? Pitt has no 1st to give

They may get a big return but it won’t be a young top 6 forward and a first, on top of a prospect who has potential.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Tentative yes from this Stars fan.....I do like DeBrusk, no clue who Lauko is though. Seems like he's doing ok in the AHL so far.

If the Stars keep trending upwards and make a late push then I doubt Pavs gets shopped, but if they start to plummet again I would hope that Jim Nill would fish around for the best possible landing spots.

He's never really been one to hoard draft picks though.....can't remember the last time Dallas traded for a first round pick.

History of NHL trades by the Dallas Stars - NHL Trade Tracker

2004.

2004 was the last time Dallas acquired another team's 1st round pick in a trade.

That's insane.

 

[Montecristo]

They may get a big return but it won’t be a young top 6 forward and a first, on top of a prospect who has potential.

ohhhhh thats where the hang up is. I see debrusk as a 3rd line forward and you see him as a potential top line forward. No wonder you hate this deal. Youd probably like it a lot more if you thought debrusk had the value of a 3rd line forward which is likely where his current value sits. Thinking of him as a top line potential forward you probably dont want to move him at all knowing that no one will give back the appropriate value youd probably rather just hang onto him.

and all prospects have potential

 

[Unspecified]

I don't think Pavelski is gonna get anyone a 1st round pick.

Absolutely he would

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

ohhhhh thats where the hang up is. I see debrusk as a 3rd line forward and you see him as a potential top line forward. No wonder you hate this deal. Youd probably like it a lot more if you thought debrusk had the value of a 3rd line forward which is likely where his current value sits. Thinking of him as a top line potential forward you probably dont want to move him at all knowing that no one will give back the appropriate value youd probably rather just hang onto him.

and all prospects have potential

Your offer sucks. That's where the hang up is. DeBrusk is a top 6 forward. He's having a down year. Bruins fans are just way too reactionary. For one, save me the "I've always seen him as a 3rd line forward" BS I'm sure you'll respond with. I don't know how many 3rd line forwards produce like he has the past two seasons. He had 35 points in 65 games last season; 44 point pace. The previous season he had 42 points in 68 games; 51 point pace. His rookie year he was right on par with 43 points in 70 games. He's 24 years old and has shown, before this year, to be good for 20-30 goals, 40-50 points.

So on top of that, you want to also move a 1st round pick which has value on it's own and then an intriguing prospect off to a hot start in the AHL.

All for a 36-37 year old forward who is not going to be here long.

 

[Montecristo]

Your offer sucks. That's where the hang up is. DeBrusk is a top 6 forward. He's having a down year. Bruins fans are just way too reactionary. For one, save me the "I've always seen him as a 3rd line forward" BS I'm sure you'll respond with. I don't know how many 3rd line forwards produce like he has the past two seasons. He had 35 points in 65 games last season; 44 point pace. The previous season he had 42 points in 68 games; 51 point pace. His rookie year he was right on par with 43 points in 70 games. He's 24 years old and has shown, before this year, to be good for 20-30 goals, 40-50 points.

So on top of that, you want to also move a 1st round pick which has value on it's own and then an intriguing prospect off to a hot start in the AHL.

All for a 36-37 year old forward who is not going to be here long.

i saw him as a 2nd line forward a year ago. Over the past year he has played like a 4th line forward/healthy scratch. That puts his value (to me) as a 3rd line forward, which is replaceable

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

i saw him as a 2nd line forward a year ago. Over the past year he has played like a 4th line forward/healthy scratch. That puts his value (to me) as a 3rd line forward, which is replaceable

Your value rating is as bad as your offer.