Injury Report: Dach and Toews to LTIR and Seabrook to IR

[Fingers and Toews]

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[Crow]

So what does that say about how long Seabrook will be out as a minimum?

 

[Pez68]

So what does that say about how long Seabrook will be out as a minimum?

At least two weeks I believe.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

At least two weeks I believe.

I think he's going to try to play, get injured again, and realize that he can't do it anymore and go home to LTIRetirement, probably next season.

 

[Mrfenn92]

No surprise

 

[wahsnairb]

Sad, but expected... just like the rest of our season will be

 

[Hattrick Kane]

At Seabrook’s age with his milage, I doubt he makes a comeback. Back injuries and hockey just don’t mix. Ask Dave Bolland.

 

[hawksfan50]

So can we take on a bad contract at tge TDL for some contendercwantingvto clear capspacectp add from a deal with some team....asset acqusition (picks) in return?

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

So can we take on a bad contract at tge TDL for some contendercwantingvto clear capspacectp add from a deal with some team....asset acqusition (picks) in return?

The huge issue with dumping Seabrook's contract, even if on LTIRetirement, is that the contract value and the dollar value are relatively equal.

 

[Kevin Musto]

So we have like 12M in LTIR relief?

 

[Hawkaholic]

So what does that say about how long Seabrook will be out as a minimum?

Injured Reserve List
In the event that a player is injured and a Club wishes to place him on the Injured Reserve List the Club must follow these procedures:

1. A club may place a player on the Injured Reserve List if such player is injured, disabled or ill and unable to perform his duties as a hockey player after having passed the Club's initial physical examination in that season.
2. A player who has an injury that renders him physically unable to play for a minumum of seven days after that date of the injury can be placed on the Club's Injured Reserve List. Once a player is placed on the list, the Club may replace said player on its NHL roster with another player. All determinations that a player has suffered an injury warranting injured reserve status must be made by the Club's medical staff and in accordance with the Club's medical standards.
3. A player placed on Injured Reserve is ineligible to compete in NHL games for a period of not less than seven days.
4. Players on Injured Reserve may attend Club meetings and meals, travel with the Club and participate in practice sessions.

 

[Otto31]

I also have this feeling that Seabs will retire very soon.

 

[Illinihockey]

I also have this feeling that Seabs will retire very soon.

Somehow I doubt he's going to leave $15.5 million on the table.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Somehow I doubt he's going to leave $15.5 million on the table.

You can retire without officially retiring.

 

[Brightwing]

You can retire without officially retiring.

It'll be like Hossa. LTIRetirement.

 

[jaysoneil]

It'll be like Hossa. LTIRetirement.

Hopefully a similar situation isn't already in play with Toews.

 

[Pez68]

Somehow I doubt he's going to leave $15.5 million on the table.

Because a player has never retired and still collected their salary afterwards... lol

If you retire due to injury, it's LTIR money.

 

[ClydeLee]

Because a player has never retired and still collected their salary afterwards... lol

If you retire due to injury, it's LTIR money.

Right, people always make this such a big thing because of nothing but being retired and filling for retirement aren't the same but you can still simply say retired.

Hossa had a retirement video 2 years ago after his contract was traded and his contract still goes on this season. But there's no issue to simply admit Hossa is retired.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

seabs might give it another go but he's trending toward a ryan kesler type departure where they just say his back is cooked and he goes on ltiretirement...don't see how he plays beyond this season if he's unwilling to terminate his deal and play for cheaper or find a team that will take him without the hawks adding a ton...

 

[Illinihockey]

Because a player has never retired and still collected their salary afterwards... lol

If you retire due to injury, it's LTIR money.

so that’s not retiring. Sitting on LTIR for years is not the same thing for the team

 

[Illinihockey]

You can retire without officially retiring.

Except you can’t which is why the Hawks traded Hossa. It’s not the same thing, it has cap ramifications. If you retire that cap hit goes away

 

[ClydeLee]

so that’s not retiring. Sitting on LTIR for years is not the same thing for the team

Its still retiring for the player. He would be retired in the same way. Maybe have to do a yearly physical or so to demonstrate the inability to preforms health wise is what all that lifewise is different.

Yes for the team it's different. Thats not the only focus of what was said.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Except you can’t which is why the Hawks traded Hossa. It’s not the same thing, it has cap ramifications. If you retire that cap hit goes away

I think pretty much everyone already knows that.

 

[Illinihockey]

If the point is his playing days are about over, I’d agree. Back injuries rarely get better with age

 

[Brightwing]

Except you can’t which is why the Hawks traded Hossa. It’s not the same thing, it has cap ramifications. If you retire that cap hit goes away

I mean, Hossa was literally elected into the Hall of Fame while on LTIR. It's retirement except on the books. This season is actually Hossa's last contract year.