Rumor: D Mike Green willing to be traded to SJ + other team

[LadyStanley]

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2014/07/analysis_mike_green_appears_be.html

Looks like Washington's Green is looking to move on, and one of his rumored desired destinations is SJ.


Green for Burish and pucks?

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[hohosaregood]

Too bad we got no room on the right side. So I doubt it'll happen but let's see. This is about as interesting of an offseason we'll ever get.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Could move Burns back up front. I don't know.

 

[sr228]

I wouldn't call this a rumor, more speculation on the writers part about SJ being short on defense.

Either way, the last thing the Sharks need is another right shooting d-man unless they move Burns back to wing. Though if healthy I like Green.

 

[LadyStanley]

I wouldn't call this a rumor, more speculation on the writers part about SJ being short on defense.

Either way, the last thing the Sharks need is another right shooting d-man unless they move Burns back to wing. Though if healthy I like Green.

Except that Green has Sharks on his list of "teams willing to be traded to"?

 

[Nighthock]

Just because SJ is on his list doesn't mean he's on SJ's list

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Except that Green has Sharks on his list of "teams willing to be traded to"?

Where does it say that?

 

[hockeyball]

I wouldn't call this a rumor, more speculation on the writers part about SJ being short on defense.

Either way, the last thing the Sharks need is another right shooting d-man unless they move Burns back to wing. Though if healthy I like Green.

I would have no problem with it, gives us options:

Vlasic - Burns
Braun - Green
Mueller/Albetshauser - Demers

Still end up with most of our offense on the right side, but it's still a very good D group.

The issue is Wilson is clearly trying not to contend, and clearly trying to get rid of Thornton (and probably Marleau). Signing Green likely would indicate an intention to contend immediately which would ruin those plans. While some around here would love that, Wilson needs to stay the course, it would destroy his credibility to back track at this point. I can't see them bringing Green in unless it is part of the Thornton/Marleau trade itself.

 

[hockeyball]

Except that Green has Sharks on his list of "teams willing to be traded to"?

It doesn't really say that, it says his list of teams would be limited by cap space and then lists teams with cap space and in need (including us). It doesn't actually say Green has us on his list.

 

[sr228]

Except that Green has Sharks on his list of "teams willing to be traded to"?

I didn't see anything that said Green has SJ on his list, just speculation from Khan that if he is traded and invokes his limited NTC that they (along with Detroit and Dallas) could be on it unless I missed something that lists out what teams he would be willing to go to.

It doesn't really matter anyway, I highly doubt Green is on DW's radar.

 

[ScottyDont]

Kennedy+2nd for Green.
Trade Burns to Detroit for Tatar and Ouellet.

Sure why not

EDIT: Or sign and trade Demers for Tatar.

 

[hohosaregood]

I would have no problem with it, gives us options:

Vlasic - Burns
Braun - Green
Mueller/Albetshauser - Demers

Still end up with most of our offense on the right side, but it's still a very good D group.

The issue is Wilson is clearly trying not to contend, and clearly trying to get rid of Thornton (and probably Marleau). Signing Green likely would indicate an intention to contend immediately which would ruin those plans. While some around here would love that, Wilson needs to stay the course, it would destroy his credibility to back track at this point. I can't see them bringing Green in unless it is part of the Thornton/Marleau trade itself.

It still depends on what we'd give up. Green is still a relatively young guy and he could potentially be with the team for the long haul.

 

[Chairman Mallard]

seems much more speculation than it seems rumor.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

 

[Gilligans Island]

It still depends on what we'd give up. Green is still a relatively young guy and he could potentially be with the team for the long haul.

Yeah, Green could be a good buy low. He's 28 so he'd be the right age to mesh with the younger players.

Move Burns back to forward and flip Demers for a 1st or high 2nd?

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Yeah, Green could be a good buy low. He's 28 so he'd be the right age to mesh with the younger players.

Move Burns back to forward and flip Demers for a 1st or high 2nd?

If you move Burns back to forward and flip Demers, you're short a d-man on the right side unless you're assuming Tennyson steps up. And with a seemingly probable spot on the left side for Mueller or Abeltshauser, I don't think that'd be a good way to go.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Green hasn't played more than 70 games since 2009-10. That's Havlatish.

 

[matt trick]

Would love to have Green. He is an excellent trigger on the PP, makes a nice first pass, and is (just) under 30. Not good defensively, and aside from Vlasic, who I want playing with Burns or Braun, we don't have someone who can support him. It would take acquiring another player to cover for him, which would be a pain in the ass.

If we move Burish, 4 of the 7 eldest Sharks will be gone (not counting Kearns), and the team will not likely replace them with players of an equivalent age- I don't consider Scott terribly relevant, even though he is roughly Burish's age.

Green replaces Boyle (Sharks get nine years younger)
Mueller replaces Stuart (Sharks get 15 years younger)
Tennyson replaces Hannan (Sharks get 11 years younger)

McGinn replaces Burish (Sharks get 8 years younger)
Niemi traded, replaced by a guy like Reimer (Sharks get 5 years younger)
Goldobin replaces Havlat (Sharks get 13 years younger)
Hamilton replaces Kennedy (Sharks get 5 years younger)

Obviously, not all these would happen this year, but these moves/similar ones make the team 66 years younger, an average of a little less than three years per player. Average age fromstats.nhlnumbers.com shows a spread of 30-26.5 (I dropped NJD- huge outlier). Those three years would drop a team from 2nd oldest to fourth youngest.

 

[Bizz]

Green is a former Norris finalist, something the Sharks have not had since Blake. He's not perfect defensively but he's still better than Letang or Karlsson and maybe even Boyle at it.

 

[Gilligans Island]

If you move Burns back to forward and flip Demers, you're short a d-man on the right side unless you're assuming Tennyson steps up. And with a seemingly probable spot on the left side for Mueller or Abeltshauser, I don't think that'd be a good way to go.

You're right. That doesn't make sense.

Wonder what it would take? A 2nd and a prospect?

Vlasic - Burns
Braun - Green
Irwin - Demers

Is a good young defense.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Green is a former Norris finalist, something the Sharks have not had since Blake. He's not perfect defensively but he's still better than Letang or Karlsson and maybe even Boyle at it.

No, he's not better than any of those 3. He's an out and out disaster in his own end.

Rather have MDZ (at the salary he would get)

 

[Bizz]

He's an out and out disaster in his own end.

Prove it.

 

[enviSAGE]

Green is a former Norris finalist, something the Sharks have not had since Blake. He's not perfect defensively but he's still better than Letang or Karlsson and maybe even Boyle at it.

 

[Bizz]

Ive seen Karlsson and Letang get blown past by opposing forwards on many occasions, I don't see many highlights of that happening to Green.

 

[OrrNumber4]

A player with health problems, defensive-zone issues, work-ethic issues, and a history of being a liability in the playoffs.