Duh..... I'm sure everyone but Andy would have PREFERRED a lesser pay out. His contract is more than fair for what he is, and THAT is the only thing that matters (as much as any this stuff really matters anyways).
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Duh..... I'm sure everyone but Andy would have PREFERRED a lesser pay out. His contract is more than fair for what he is, and THAT is the only thing that matters (as much as any this stuff really matters anyways).
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Viletho
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I'm with you on that one. I don't dislike the deal but i would have prefer if it happened after Anderson showed he can still compete at his normal level mid-year for exemple. Anderson get injured all the time, what if he get injured again and this is a big one ?
Uh. I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty sure aging doesn't work like that.
I do agree with the people that say it's a bit risky but Andy's been a great player and story for us throughout the years. I feel like giving him comfortability in this contract might allow him to focus more on his game. I also heard that he's decently tight with Turris so this could be a move that makes Turris more comfortable with resigning.
BonHoonLayneCornell
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I think he meant re-signings only so it's just Alfie. Spezza demanded a trade, sfa we could have done other than hold out hoping to get a better deal. Methot was mishandled but it was not an issue of not being willing to pay up for a new contract.
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sure it does, because mostly when you look at when players decline, it's because of the games played that taxes the body. Andy has played similar games to 30 year olds. Just like Tim Thomas etc. who didn't play that much and played well into their late 30s
Who knows what will happen, but he doesn't have a 37 year old goalie body right now.
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Anderson's last contract was terrible from a player POV and that clouds why people expect as fair value. Anderson being 36 is the only reason we got him for this cheap. The 5.5M year makes him tied for 17-18th highest paid goalie. The second year barely cracks the top 30.
With a goalie of Anderson's resume, we arguably got a discount here due to the risk his age presents.
NyQuil
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Despite Hogberg showing some promise and Condon filling in admirably, we clearly don't have someone ready for the #1 goalie position.
Having watched us struggle with any kind of consistency in the past due to a revolving door of goalies, I'm finding it hard to be overly critical of this move.
I don't see how this season makes much of a difference. He was playing a few months ago at the highest level against the best competition in the league.
Having watched us struggle with any kind of consistency in the past due to a revolving door of goalies, I'm finding it hard to be overly critical of this move.
I don't see how this season makes much of a difference. He was playing a few months ago at the highest level against the best competition in the league.
We can't even have a consensus happy fan response to our starter, and best goalie to ever play for us, being signed to a two year deal at average money before he has even hinted at a decline in his play.
This board really does suck sometimes, some just work so hard to drain the smile out of everything.
This board really does suck sometimes, some just work so hard to drain the smile out of everything.
Xspyrit
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Unless Melnyk is ready to spend a LOT MORE (spend to the cap, buy out or bury players, take more salary back in a trade, etc) in the near future, I guarantee you that this will happen.
I absolutely love Andy but Rask and Lundqvist didn't give as nearly as many bad goals as Andy (and Condon) gave up.
This is ridiculous.
Alfie left at 40 y/o : while it sucked because he was a Sens legend, it would have been a non-story if it was any other player. He had 1 decent season left in the tank
Methot : ever heard of expansion draft? Why using invalid arguments? Are you hoping that some people get fooled?
Spezza : lol he was traded, the return didn't work out well so far but that was 4 young assets for 1 year of UFA-t0-be Spezza who already stated that he was not going to re-sign (an inflated) contract with you. A HUGE FACT that people omit when analyzing the trade is that the Sens only took 900K$ in salary back while Spezza was not cheap.
They better hope for that. Because not even 1 year ago no one wanted Condon at 575 000$... Now at 2 400 000$, he better play real good.[/QUOTE]
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Agree with the two above (Nyquil & IceTray).
I get it seems odd to sign before the season, but I'm happy to have some consistency in net. Plus I think Andy will be great as a new #1 goalie takes over... something we obviously don't have on our team currently (Hogberg is still not e even likely playing in Belleville so believe he's a few years off).
I get it seems odd to sign before the season, but I'm happy to have some consistency in net. Plus I think Andy will be great as a new #1 goalie takes over... something we obviously don't have on our team currently (Hogberg is still not e even likely playing in Belleville so believe he's a few years off).
NyQuil
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I don't think any team relied more on goaltenders in last year's playoffs than the Ottawa Senators did.
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I wonder if Condon's preseason struggles played a role in this signing.
Seemed like the general consensus over the summer, is that Andy and Condon would split duties this year, and then Condon would graduate to #1 in 2018-19, with either Andy, Taylor, or Hogberg being the backup
NyQuil
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Condon looked good against the Leafs.
We had that tire fire game against the Devils but overall I thought our goaltending wasn't too bad.
Maybe I have selective memory.
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Well there is the obvious one who are trashing everything that management is doing. It's almost always the same people.. I feel you.
I'm not a fan of the 2y, but i understand why they are doing it, and i see both pros and cons of doing it right now. I would have wait a little longer, but if the contract talk are being Andy and he can focus on his game. Good thing !!
Well.... Lund and Rask also didn't make nearly as many game saving saves as Andy, which is why, you know, they lost.
Melnyk will increase spending along with the core as he has over the last few years. I thought by now the fear-mongerers would have taken a break since we have continued to sign everyone we wanted and the budget has grown each year. Sadly there ares still some staunch holdouts
As a side note, welcome back HF board, welcome back Sens hockey!
(anyone else have friggin auto correct changing 'Sens' to 'Pens' every time?)
tarheelhockey
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Anderson's one of the most underrated goalies. Guy has been good for a .916 over 500 games, and only has 1 or 2 weak seasons out of his last 10. That's a really strong career in this league.
BonHoonLayneCornell
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Dorion has said pretty much exactly this many times. Legit or not, this is his line of thinking as well.
The best Senators goalie has got an appropriate contract. It’s not an overpayment (for once) and for that, I’m happy.
NyQuil
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It's fairly unusual these days.
In Ottawa, in the few years before Anderson and after Lalime and Hasek, we had Emery, Gerber, Leclaire, Elliott and Auld, none of whom panned out.
Stability at the goaltender position is a luxury in this day and age IMO.
saskriders
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What he is getting paid now is fair for what he is, what his cap hit is in four years isn't worth the risk of age slowing him down in my opinion.
This signing gives us just under $18 million of cap space in 2018-19 with 3F and 5D left to sign.
Assuming we can convince Stone and Turris to re-up for $6.0M each... that's still only $6.0M left for Ceci & five league minimum players (Clarke's LTIR notwithstanding).
Hate to say it... but I think we either let Turris walk or make a move elsewhere.
Assuming we can convince Stone and Turris to re-up for $6.0M each... that's still only $6.0M left for Ceci & five league minimum players (Clarke's LTIR notwithstanding).
Hate to say it... but I think we either let Turris walk or make a move elsewhere.
Yet their teams were out before we were.
Who cares about the number of bad goals?
I don't like bad goals more than the next guy, but to say he had a bad playoff and then say others who we beat were better, is just complaining to complain.
