OT: Covid-19 (Part 54) New Year, New Shots

[dcyhabs]

For what?

The full effect of the booster?

 

[Licou]

I wonder if this gets classified as a suicide and her family doesn't get her life insurance assuming she has one.

That would be really really messed up if that was the case. But I am no lawyer.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Maybe we should increase opportunities for people to spread it around. Would you prefer that?

We should continue the curfew then, it was so smart, we should even add more measures... If people stay home, the virus won't circulate, it's logical.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

There is hope guys !!!!!!!!

 

[Deebs]

There is hope guys !!!!!!!!

Boris is such a f***ing clown

 

[llamateizer]

Got Moderna yesterday.

I'm wrecked today.
I woke up 4 am with frissons (goosebumps?) without being cold.
I was shaking and tried gather my breathing.
muscle soreness, and tired.

Still managed to work for the whole day.

first 2 doses with Pfizer, I had almost no adverse effect.

I'm glad I managed to get vaccinated. I'm not interested to get the virus in my system.

 

[waffledave]

We should continue the curfew then, it was so smart, we should even add more measures... If people stay home, the virus won't circulate, it's logical.

So your logic is that since numbers are still bad, the measures we have in place are doing nothing at all?

How do you know that the numbers wouldn't be far worse if we didn't have these measures? What data do you have to support this?

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Boris is such a f***ing clown

Why ? It's been close to two years with draconian measures, it's time to move on, people are vaccinated, we have pills to help and Omicron took over... The economy is ruined, people are tired mentally, let's stop the hysteria and learn to live with it.

 

[waffledave]

Got Moderna yesterday.

I'm wrecked today.
I woke up 4 am with frissons (goosebumps?) without being cold.
I was shaking and tried gather my breathing.
muscle soreness, and tired.

Still managed to work for the whole day.

first 2 doses with Pfizer, I had almost no adverse effect.

I'm glad I managed to get vaccinated. I'm not interested to get the virus in my system.

Similar to you, I had Pfizer first 2 times, no effects. The Moderna booster hurt a lot more and the day after I felt sore and tired. But all good the next day after a hot shower.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

So your logic is that since numbers are still bad, the measures we have in place are doing nothing at all?

How do you know that the numbers wouldn't be far worse if we didn't have these measures? What data do you have to support this?

Show me the data that proves that the curfew worked so well... It was useless, stop justifying it.

 

[waffledave]

Show me the data that proves that the curfew worked so well... It was useless, stop justifying it.

You're asking me to show you data that you know doesn't exist because we don't have 2 test groups.

By your logic, COVID is still spreading, so masks and vaccines must be useless too. And hey, many people who go to the hospital with COVID still die, so medical care is probably also useless.

The curfew isn't even in place anymore so I don't know what you're still whining about.

 

[LarryO]

Got Moderna yesterday.

I'm wrecked today.
I woke up 4 am with frissons (goosebumps?) without being cold.
I was shaking and tried gather my breathing.
muscle soreness, and tired.

Still managed to work for the whole day.

first 2 doses with Pfizer, I had almost no adverse effect.

I'm glad I managed to get vaccinated. I'm not interested to get the virus in my system.

Similar for me. I got Pfizer for the first two with no adverse effects. I got the Moderna booster in the morning, started feeling a bit nausious before supper, had a bit of diarrhea after supper, chills in the evening. After a good night's sleep under an extra blanket, I was perfectly fine in the morning. Even then, I can't guarantee that those symptoms were due to the vaccine.

Just FYI, frissons would be chills. Goosebumps is chair de poule.

 

[WeeBey]

Why ? It's been close to two years with draconian measures, it's time to move on, people are vaccinated, we have pills to help and Omicron took over... The economy is ruined, people are tired mentally, let's stop the hysteria and learn to live with it.

I try to give anti-mandate/anti-vax/anti-do-anything-at-all people the benefit of the doubt but it's really hard to take them seriously when they refer to masks, the simplest and least intrusive measure of them all, as "draconian". Just completely divorced from reality.

 

[Kriss E]

Maybe we should increase opportunities for people to spread it around. Would you prefer that?

Yes. At this point, open everything up, put limits but stop with the desperate measures. It's been 2 years...trends everywhere are Up/down, seasonal.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

You're asking me to show you data that you know doesn't exist because we don't have 2 test groups.

By your logic, COVID is still spreading, so masks and vaccines must be useless too. And hey, many people who go to the hospital with COVID still die, so medical care is probably also useless.

The curfew isn't even in place anymore so I don't know what you're still whining about.

Ontario had almost the same measures as us, without the curfew, we can compare with them... The curfew was useless.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

I try to give anti-mandate/anti-vax/anti-do-anything-at-all people the benefit of the doubt but it's really hard to take them seriously when they refer to masks, the simplest and least intrusive measure of them all, as "draconian". Just completely divorced from reality.

Can you read ? Where did I talk about masks specifically ?

 

[WeeBey]

Can you read ? Where did I talk about masks specifically ?

Because this was in response to a tweet about getting rid of mask mandates? Also, let's not pretend people haven't been crying about masks since the beginning.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Because this was in response to a tweet about getting rid of mask mandates? Also, let's not pretend people haven't been crying about masks since the beginning.

The video is not only about the mask mandates and why are you deflecting the subject to talk about other people ? You made a mistake, it's fine, don't dig deeper.

 

[WeeBey]

The video is not only about the mask mandates and why are you deflecting the subject to talk about other people ? You made a mistake, it's fine, don't dig deeper.

Half of the video is about masks and it the loosening of restrictions on masks got the biggest cheer of all the announcements. I think pointing out that people have been massive babies about the masks for two years is relevant.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Half of the video is about masks and it the loosening of restrictions on masks got the biggest cheer of all the announcements. I think pointing out that people have been massive babies about the masks for two years is relevant.

You were clearly talking about me, because you referred to the words "draconian measures", that I used... Your whole rant was about the use of these words, in reference to the masks, a reference that I never made.

Come on...

 

[Forum93]

You were clearly talking about me, because you referred to the words "draconian measures", that I used... Your whole rant was about the use of these words, in reference to the masks, a reference that I never made.

Come on...

That's enough Cristiano. @WeeBey was talking about you because you posted the clown's tweet about removing mask mandates and other measures and responded with "There's still hope guys!!!
That's fine, you made a mistake, don't dig further.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

You know I keep hearing "people don't want to vaccinate anymore" but we're consistently close to 100k total vaccinations per day. This completely destroys our original vaccination pace. It will slow down eventually, I know that but so far it doesn't look like we'll have trouble hitting above 80% for the booster.

 

[waffledave]

Ontario had almost the same measures as us, without the curfew, we can compare with them... The curfew was useless.

We can't compare with them, because things are different from one place to another. The epidemiological situation is different in every single province of this country.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

We can't compare with them, because things are different from one place to another. The epidemiological situation is different in every single province of this country.

To be honest I think by now people found alternatives to curfews and the effectiveness is limited.

I think limiting gatherings at restaurants and capacity of stores is more useful.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

That's enough Cristiano. @WeeBey was talking about you because you posted the clown's tweet about removing mask mandates and other measures and responded with "There's still hope guys!!!
That's fine, you made a mistake, don't dig further.

The virus became endemic, according to UK and Spanish authorities, they are treating it accordingly.

People are still free to wear the mask, to take the vaccine and do whatever they need to feel safe.

What is the issue with that ?