Rumor: Columbus in trade talks; trying to acquire Top 6 center

[Jackets16]

Reinhart is an elite talent.

If he is elite, what is Wennberg?

 

[Jackets16]

Werenski isn't even CBJ's best defenseman and they value him as much as Matthews. Does that make Seth Jones worth two Crosbys? HF Posters never cease to amaze.

Fact is CBJ's GM thinks the roster requires trades and has been gearing up from a 5-year competitive to a 2-year contention window with the Panarin trade.

No, it makes them equal in value. Neither are getting traded. They are both young and going to be very good (even better than they already are).

 

[Icicle]

No, it makes them equal in value. Neither are getting traded. They are both young and going to be very good (even better than they already are).

Sabres fans said the same thing about Tyler Myers and he actually won a Calder

 

[Viqsi]

Sabres fans said the same thing about Tyler Myers and he actually won a Calder

Thanks for sharing.

 

[Rasmus CacOlainen]

If he is elite, what is Wennberg?

Aren't they pretty much on the same level? Can you really argue Wennberg is better than Reinhart? I can't see that being a good argument. Reinhart's hero chart is definitely better than Wennberg's for a start and advanced stats seem quite similar.

So my questions is the following...would you not want another Wennberg on your team!?

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Aren't they pretty much on the same level? Can you really argue Wennberg is better than Reinhart? I can't see that being a good argument. Reinhart's hero chart is definitely better than Wennberg's for a start and advanced stats seem quite similar.

So my questions is the following...would you not want another Wennberg on your team!?

I agree (generally) and yes I would. But most Buffalo posters in here won't trade him for Murray, so there goes that idea.

 

[Rasmus CacOlainen]

I agree (generally) and yes I would. But most Buffalo posters in here won't trade him for Murray, so there goes that idea.

Reinhart+McCabe for Werenski+(insert servicable winger), not possible? McCabe can play top line minutes, just not at Werenski's level long term and you get Reinhart.

OK + for me is Bjorkstrand, but guess there are other options (some are mentionening Jenner on BUF board). Whether that entices CBJ to pull the trigger, no clue.

In terms of trade value IMO Werenski>Reinhart>McCabe>Bjork, overall balanced IMO. We get needed D upgrade, you get needed F upgrade while not weakening the other position much respectively.

 

[Columbus Jack]

Reinhart+McCabe for Werenski+(insert servicable winger), not possible? McCabe can play top line minutes, just not at Werenski's level long term and you get Reinhart.

OK + for me is Bjorkstrand, but guess there are other options (some are mentionening Jenner on BUF board). Whether that entices CBJ to pull the trigger, no clue.

In terms of trade value IMO Werenski>Reinhart>McCabe>Bjork, overall balanced IMO. We get needed D upgrade, you get needed F upgrade while not weakening the other position much respectively.

Lol not trading Werenski and definitely not adding Bjorkstrand on the end of it. To put it simply, Columbus wouldnt trade Werenski for Eichel.

 

[Aladyyn]

If he is elite, what is Wennberg?

Not elite? Seems obvious enough to me.

 

[Jackets16]

Aren't they pretty much on the same level? Can you really argue Wennberg is better than Reinhart? I can't see that being a good argument. Reinhart's hero chart is definitely better than Wennberg's for a start and advanced stats seem quite similar.

So my questions is the following...would you not want another Wennberg on your team!?

My point is that I haven't seen anyone claim Wennberg is elite. I think they are close, but I like Wennberg more.

 

[Jackets16]

Not elite? Seems obvious enough to me.

So, in your opinion, Sam is elite and Wennberg isn't? So, you think Sam is better than Wennberg?

 

[Jackets16]

Reinhart+McCabe for Werenski+(insert servicable winger), not possible? McCabe can play top line minutes, just not at Werenski's level long term and you get Reinhart.

OK + for me is Bjorkstrand, but guess there are other options (some are mentionening Jenner on BUF board). Whether that entices CBJ to pull the trigger, no clue.

In terms of trade value IMO Werenski>Reinhart>McCabe>Bjork, overall balanced IMO. We get needed D upgrade, you get needed F upgrade while not weakening the other position much respectively.

Not even close. That is really bad. I'll try this again. Werenski isn't getting traded.

 

[Aladyyn]

Since he doesn't have the elite skating or dominant presence to flourish in today's NHL as an elite-level player. He does small things well, is good at puck possession, creating plays and has a decent shot but that doesn't make him truly elite talent... this probably makes him a good 2C down the line if a team (BUF or other) actually allow him to play at center. Werenski is truly elite talent...not saying he will be an elite defender in 3 years time, but absolutely has that level of potential/talent. Reinhart is a notch down and if you fail to recognize this, don't blame other fanbases' that are shocked at your trade evaluations involving him.

the **** is "dominant presence" if Reinhart doesn't have it?

 

[Rasmus CacOlainen]

Not even close.

Well OK. Then you will have to talk to the other 29 teams in the NHL cause there are so many with spare 1-2C's

 

[Aladyyn]

So, in your opinion, Sam is elite and Wennberg isn't? So, you think Sam is better than Wennberg?

Younger and better, yes.

 

[Rasmus CacOlainen]

the **** is "dominant presence" if Reinhart doesn't have it?

What Eichel and ROR have and Sam doesn't. That. I am not arguing with you on Reinahrt anymore, too much of a fanboy to accept any argument against your hockey love.

 

[MAHJ71]

Reinhart+McCabe for Werenski+(insert servicable winger), not possible? McCabe can play top line minutes, just not at Werenski's level long term and you get Reinhart.

Even in a dream world - its not even close to possible let alone fair. It's hilarious for a split second, then quickly insulting that you think that would come even close to working.

Is that clear enough?

 

[Finlanche]

If I was CBJ GM I would not trade for Reinhart since he and Wenneberg are quite close talent wise(at this point), they should try to get someone who is better than Wenneberg. Meaning TJ or Duchy or someone who can be 1c and let Wenneberg be 2c. I dont see Reinhart as 1c.

 

[Rasmus CacOlainen]

Even in a dream world - its not even close to possible let alone fair. It's hilarious for a split second, then quickly insulting that you think that would come even close to working.

Is that clear enough?

Huh, have you actually seen Buf players play or just spewing nonsense. How exactly is it not fair? Reinhart is likely a career 2C, McCabe is likely a career 2-3D. Werenski is likely a career 1-2D, Bjorkstrand is likely a career 2W. BUF players have higher floor and lower celing, CBJ players have higher ceiling and lower floor. All of them are cheap and young. Sounds about as fair as it gets.

 

[MAHJ71]

Huh, have you actually seen Buf players play or just spewing nonsense. How exactly is it not fair? Reinhart is likely a career 2C, McCabe is likely a career 2-3D. Werenski is likely a career 1-2D, Bjorkstrand is likely a career 2W. BUF players have higher floor and lower celing, CBJ players have higher ceiling and lower floor. All of them are cheap and young. Sounds about as fair as it gets.

Last post I'm going to waste time replying to the nonsense you've thrown out in this thread.

***IF**** Werenski were available or to be traded, Eichel would be coming back the other way. THAT is how much Columbus values him. Whether or not you agree is completely irrelevant.

 

[Aladyyn]

What Eichel and ROR have and Sam doesn't. That. I am not arguing with you on Reinahrt anymore, too much of a fanboy to accept any argument against your hockey love.

Maybe you should stop using vague, meaningless terms to "support" your view.

 

[Rasmus CacOlainen]

Last post I'm going to waste time replying to the nonsense you've thrown out in this thread.

***IF**** Werenski were available or to be traded, Eichel would be coming back the other way. THAT is how much Columbus values him. Whether or not you agree is completely irrelevant.

That is how much YOU value him, you have 0 clue what your GM will do

 

[Eb]

Prepare for habs fans to be amazed that it actually is possible to acquire a top 6 centre

 

[Jackets16]

Well OK. Then you will have to talk to the other 29 teams in the NHL cause there are so many with spare 1-2C's

We don't have to trade for a 1C. That is just what we are looking for. I don't know what to say if you think that is Werenski's value.

 

[Jackets16]

Younger and better, yes.

All I can say is wow.