HFpapi
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But won the Hart playing next to Kyle Palmeiri.
Confirmed Trade: [CHI/BOS] Taylor Hall and Nick Foligno (UFA rights) for Ian Mitchell and Alec Regula
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The don godfather
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A first this I gotta see. Scotch and eggs is a terrible combination for breakfast my friend.
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I am in agreement with you, never been a fan of Sweeney , to be honest I have always been his biggest critic , but to be fair I thought last year he did a solid job , but after this deal I am back on as one of his harshest critics . How in the hell do you get NOTHING ! for Hall..................
bb_fan
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Hall gets way to much abuse.
to me he looked more like a responsible two way player and very good at controling the puck.
i was expecting (having not followed him) a more 'flashy' offensive type of player who took to many risks/made two many plays and lost the puck more often than not type of player.
His play in his own end, at least to me, was a very pleasant surprise.
i admit; I would have preferred a second round pick or something instead, but the Hawks aren't giving that up.
to me he looked more like a responsible two way player and very good at controling the puck.
i was expecting (having not followed him) a more 'flashy' offensive type of player who took to many risks/made two many plays and lost the puck more often than not type of player.
His play in his own end, at least to me, was a very pleasant surprise.
maybe because no one else really wanted him without Boston retaining or taking cap back, which is what they couldn't do.
i admit; I would have preferred a second round pick or something instead, but the Hawks aren't giving that up.
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I know that had to move salary, but this still seems like a pretty poor return. I'm really not Hall's biggest fan but you'd think a team closer to contending would be willing to offer more, even with the salary constraints.
I would have thought Calgary would have been all over this. Would be a total Calgary move.
I would have thought Calgary would have been all over this. Would be a total Calgary move.
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If Cap space is gold, stop giving out unnecessary contracts. Some stupid ones include signing Reilly, Forbort, Grzelcyk, and Foligno all in the 3 million plus range. All those high priced contracts makes it difficult to move players because nobody wants them. Taylor Hall at 6 million got really nothing in return. Two RFA's. One with limited talent who is 5'11 and the other bigger but likely an AHL player. The Bruins could not even pry a single draft pick from Chicago who has 29 draft picks over the next three years. But at the trade deadline, Sweeney was giving them out like candy. There is nothing much on the farm team and there needs to be some efforts to recoup draft picks. Hard to find talent when you don't pick in the NHL draft until the third round this year and the fourth round next year. Not getting some draft picks is a mistake. Interesting times ahead. That is for sure.
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So Hall is 6 mill a year and 2 years left.
Konecny is 5.5 mill a year and 2 years left.
Hall with 97 points in last two years.
Konecny with 113 points in last two years
Different ages and TK is in his prime. Curious what he lands after Hall was free?
Konecny is 5.5 mill a year and 2 years left.
Hall with 97 points in last two years.
Konecny with 113 points in last two years
Different ages and TK is in his prime. Curious what he lands after Hall was free?
Hawkaholic
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Flyers don't have to trade TK to fit under the cap. And TK doesn't have a NTC.
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So you're gonna go by an injury plagued season where he only played 61 games, and ignore his entire career, and ignore the 5 goals 8 points in 7 games that he put up in the playoffs when it matters most, in what was a supposed down season? So I'll ask again what does he return at the TDL with retention?
The don godfather
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If you see his last few years all you see is injury and low production. Hes on the decline and may get worse. At this pace your lucky to get anything with cap retention. Reminds me of the johannsen trade that just happened with preds and Colorado. Aleg G return?
The don godfather
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Dman Ian Mitchell has played 82 games and has 16 points only 24 years old. There could be something here.
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Well look at it as the Bruins never gave up much to get him from Buffalo. Plus if they sigh Bertuzzi then its great for Boston.
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Would have been nice to get more for Hall, but Sweeney has a track record of getting good value back. I'm confident that was the best we could do, and this should mean we get to sign Bertuzzi. If we didn't make this move, we would likely lose Bertuzzi on the first day of free agency. I'm okay with the move.
Hall is a very good player when healthy. He does better when he's not "the guy." Given Chicago's place on the development curve, it's likely that nobody's going to be "the guy," for some time. Great move for the Blackhawks.
Foligno had a good year and he's a great leader. He can play third line minutes, but he'll do whatever you need him to do.
I wish both players all the best, and I'm hoping we sign Bertuzzi with the cap space.
Hall is a very good player when healthy. He does better when he's not "the guy." Given Chicago's place on the development curve, it's likely that nobody's going to be "the guy," for some time. Great move for the Blackhawks.
Foligno had a good year and he's a great leader. He can play third line minutes, but he'll do whatever you need him to do.
I wish both players all the best, and I'm hoping we sign Bertuzzi with the cap space.
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I actually think Mitchell may figure it out on a different club, with a more insulated role. So, despite what a chunk of Hawks fans say, I believe there is still time for him to bring it together. It'll just be a short window.
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Not really a fair comparison though. Player values are lower heading into the draft and FA, when every team is trying to free up cap space. Compared to the TDL where 75% of the players cap has been spent and you have more buyers than sellers.
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Any chance CHI just retains on Hall and sends him out for more assets/futures? 50% retention is $3m for the next 2 years. I'd imagine that would return quite a good package near the deadline.
