Confirmed Trade: [CBJ/VAN] Vanek for Jussi Jokinen, Tyler Motte
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Uncle Scrooge
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Benning: "We've added 2 fast players"
Why couldn't he just say Jokinen was part of the deal for reasons X and that's it. Somehow in a minor deal like this he still managed to make himself look dumb.
Why couldn't he just say Jokinen was part of the deal for reasons X and that's it. Somehow in a minor deal like this he still managed to make himself look dumb.
He said it in the words he did out of respect to Jokinen. If Benning says it straight out was a dump deal it doesn't look that great going forward if you try to sign players as FA. I know we did that before with reinprecht and he never played as a Canuck.
I think Benning is too respectful almost? I dont like Benning as a trader, I think we needed to transition him into a different role with the team but that didnt happen so we have to see what he can do with his new 3 year deal as GM.
Not a cap dump Jokinen makes 900K less than Vanek
If anything we shed some salary
CBS added Cole for a pick earlier. And landed letestu as well. This is likely to free up a contract spot for them. They may need to sign a NCAA player or something before the summer so they likely wanted to remain under the 50 contract limit.
There are plenty of moves when a player is involved to balance the contracts out. That's why a lot of guys go unclaimed on waivers and later traded for in exchange for a pick and player.
eviohh26
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Uncle Scrooge
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He replied directly to a question that was about this deal and was also asked about Jokinen specifically a moment prior. Im pretty sure he was talking about him.
Not a big deal but funny nonetheless.
eviohh26
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eviohh26
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This is prob the best we could have got for Vanek i suppose. I'm still disappointed with today. I excepted more . I always get disappointed.
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I meant that i'm surprised there wasn't more teams in on Vanek.
Clearly he will help CBJ.
Under-the-table future considerations.
Benning is running the future considerations shadow market!
Alfredo Garcia
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I find it hard to believe that GM's are thinking this way at the deadline. In most cases, there are multiple teams in on an available trade asset. If there's not, and a GM knows it, sure, they can lowball. BUT, if that was the case here, what was Benning to do? Hang on to Vanek and have him contribute down the stretch and lessen their lottery chances??? No, he took what he could get. It's as if some people think he's intentionally not taking the best deal???
Regardless....., this return may not be great, but i'm going to look on the plus side. First, I don't feel as bad as Bruins fans should feel with the bounty they tossed NYRs for Nash. Unless the cup returns to Beantown this year, that deal was horrendous. The Tatar one wasn't much better btw. Second, this has to be a win for Vancouver for no other reason that JB not tossing in a 2nd to close the deal!
BlueBaron
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Motte will be good to have for Gaudette, I guess. Give him some to-dos and some not-to-dos in transitioning to the pro game from college. Maybe Motte can also find some chemistry with Boeser or displace someone like Sam Gagner.
“Going forward, we want to be younger, faster,” said Benning. “We want to be harder to play against. I think both Brendan and Tyler they fit the mould of speed and skill and they are competitive guys."
He can't possibly be referring to Jokinen as fast...
Alfredo Garcia
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I agree! And then all we'd be hearing is "HAHAHAHA, Benning is an idiot! Rick Nash landed blah blah blah and all he got for Vanek was a 5th!!!". Besides, you start getting into 4ths and 5ths and you are in serious dart throw territory! He's taking a shot with a guy who has actually made the NHL!
Yes that’s why I said mcilrath is comparable to motte rather than Jokinen. 2 years older is a lot closer than 9 years older. Not only that Jokinen is 34 making 1.1M which means even in the ahl, 75k goes against the cap. Mcilrath at the time was making 650k.
Jokinen was a pure cap dump. Just like how Detroit held a prorated amount of 1.25M on Vanek.
The point remains though. If Eric Fehr who wasn’t even in Toronto’s system could garner a 7th, Vanek should have at least been able to fetch as much. Not even saying more. Just as much. But Benning said 0 picks were offered to him. Now that has to be because teams know they can walk over Benning and get what they want for what they don’t want. That or Benning is lying once again and just chose an ahl player over a late pick. Unless of course you believe Benning and think he couldn’t even get a 7th for Vanek
Agreed. I still have my doubts about his claim of no draft picks offered because he and Linden have been caught multiple times lying. But if it is the case then it's because the rest of the GMs have zero respect for the idiot and know he'll take whatever waiver bait offered. There are some bad GMs in the NHL right now and Benning is right there along side them.
Pip
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Some people might say that, but not the majority. The price was set on Vanek and instead of a pick they got an older prospect that two teams have now tried out and passed on.
Alfredo Garcia
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Where did Jokinen's name come up in this? It seems pretty clear to me he's speaking of Brendan Leipsic and Tyler Motte no?
Yeah, that seems to be the perception, at least among the talking heads on TSN.
But Vanek actually has higher playoff goals per game and points per game than, for example, Nash.
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Clearly this was the best...or worst deal of the day depending on your team.
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