Confirmed Trade: [CBJ/OTT] Ian Cole for Nick Moutrey, 2020 3rd round

[Human]

man, the Cole comment really stung didnt it.

hey, im just saying, whether he can fill top 4 and be a playoff warrior, a 1st was never going to be his value

Obviously it stung less than the Hartman one...

I’m sure the irony is obvious even for you.

 

[Jayan]

So which 14 year old 3rd rounder is Dorion targeting?

 

[Empoleon8771]

So Ottawa took back Cole so they could get a 3rd rounder for 3 drafts down the road? What the hell? I would have given then more for them to take Hunwick instead

 

[The List Of Jericho]

I told people Ian Cole wasn’t worth a 1st or 2nd

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

Assume that means Chorney goes back on the waiver wire.

Probably not, most likely means JJ is good as gone

I believe Chorney is making his debut tonight

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Are you implying eberle is a fast winger?

Faster than Lucic and Maroon no?

Needs two cheap fast goal scoring wingers. Much different.

Good point. You keep Hall though.
Eberle + decent pick could have got you a younger/cheaper goal scorer and maybe a bottom pairing D with top 4 potential.

 

[belair]

Faster than Lucic and Maroon no?



Good point. You keep Hall though.
Eberle + decent pick could have got you a younger/cheaper goal scorer and maybe a bottom pairing D with top 4 potential.

You're high-jacking the Ian Cole trade thread. The Oilers had to move cap space for the McDavid deal. Very little value on Jordan Eberle at $6m.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Faster than Lucic and Maroon no?



Good point. You keep Hall though.
Eberle + decent pick could have got you a younger/cheaper goal scorer and maybe a bottom pairing D with top 4 potential.

He’s probably a bit faster than those two, but that’s not really an achievment, it also took him getting traded to finally realize he needs to work on his skating

 

[Tobias Kahun]

On topic

Why did snow pay a 3rd for Davidson instead of cole

 

[M.C.G. 31]

1) I don’t get what Dorion was doing here if he was just going to flip Cole for a 3rd. Surely Winnipeg’s offer was better.

2) how did Davidson get a 3rd? LOL

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

LOL a select few (not all) Sens fans were acting like this guy was going to fetch a kings ransom.

 

[Brunomics]

On topic

Why did snow pay a 3rd for Davidson instead of cole

Because Snow is an ***hole

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

Obviously it stung less than the Hartman one...

I’m sure the irony is obvious even for you.

sounds like your cheerios taste a little bitter today

 

[harmonica]

Yeah, Pens would have traded Hunwick and the Ottawa 3rd back for him, at least I would.

However, there still may be a rift with him from earlier in the year.

 

[Dr Robot]

Just to cite.

" Incidentally, the Penguins didn't have any particular designs on trading Cole. He was included in the package for Brassard because the Senators requested him.
Jim Rutherford had other avenues to make Brassard fit under the salary cap. Trading Cole wasn't paramount to the plan. In fact, he'd have preferred keeping him.
However, the Senators intend on flipping Cole for what they hope will be a second-round draft pick between now and Monday's trade deadline."

-The Athletic
Despite issues with Mike Sullivan, Ian Cole never wanted to...

Theres a good bit more there but that's the short version. Either Ottawa thought peace sells and couldn't find a buyer or Pitts was trying to move Cole and was being polite about it.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

I think this is a pretty good move by Jarmo. You can't change the team idendity now, they have trouble scoring goals and that's it. There's really nothing out there that would suddenly make them a high-scoring team.

So, might as well be even better defensively. Ryan Murray also came back recently.

Werenski - Jones
Johnson - Murray
Cole - Savard

Bob

That's a strong back-end.

I mean if JJ returns significantly more than Cole then they should trade him. But they just paid a 3rd+ for UFA dman. Flipping Johnson for slightly better return isn't worth it over making a playoff push.

 

[Fatty McLardy]

I'm honestly really surprised a team like the islanders didn't beat this offer. Maybe isles brass don't have much confidence in their team and didn't want to waste a 2nd rounder on Cole.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

I told people Ian Cole wasn’t worth a 1st or 2nd

Assuming he doesn’t jump into Michael J Fox’s DeLorean.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

For the price that was paid I think the Leafs missed out I think the Jackets made a great pickup, it does make me wonder what happens to Jack Johnson

 

[madinsomniac]

Just to cite.

" Incidentally, the Penguins didn't have any particular designs on trading Cole. He was included in the package for Brassard because the Senators requested him.
Jim Rutherford had other avenues to make Brassard fit under the salary cap. Trading Cole wasn't paramount to the plan. In fact, he'd have preferred keeping him.
However, the Senators intend on flipping Cole for what they hope will be a second-round draft pick between now and Monday's trade deadline."

-The Athletic
Despite issues with Mike Sullivan, Ian Cole never wanted to...

Theres a good bit more there but that's the short version. Either Ottawa thought peace sells and couldn't find a buyer or Pitts was trying to move Cole and was being polite about it.

It was reported that after the first trade announcement, when everyone was thinking cole was going to tge Sens, not vegas as he was slated to do, the Sens got a ton of calls about him. Rutherford was shopping him earlier in the year... its probable the Sens grossly overestimated his value in this market... and that they didn't want to risk getting stuck with him if too much focus was made on their other pieces today..

 

[zeke]

So weird. Holden is so much better than Cole.

Cole couldn't beat out matt fricken hunwick for playing time.

 

[DJA]

I think this is a pretty good move by Jarmo. You can't change the team idendity now, they have trouble scoring goals and that's it. There's really nothing out there that would suddenly make them a high-scoring team.

So, might as well be even better defensively. Ryan Murray also came back recently.

Werenski - Jones
Johnson - Murray
Cole - Savard

Bob

That's a strong back-end.

I mean if JJ returns significantly more than Cole then they should trade him. But they just paid a 3rd+ for UFA dman. Flipping Johnson for slightly better return isn't worth it over making a playoff push.

JJ is 99% gone. Kukan, Nutivaara, Harrington, Chorney will fight for that 6 spot.

 

[madinsomniac]

Im just amazed that CBJ wanted a guy known to question suspect coaching moves strait to the coach... seems like a good way to start a riot in a torts led team lol

 

[ZeroPucksGiven]

So weird. Holden is so much better than Cole.

Cole couldn't beat out matt fricken hunwick for playing time.

That had less to do with Cole's ability and moreso with Sullivan's hatred of him taking a bunch of penalties. That lead to a ton of healthy scratches
Because Cole is about twice the player Hunwick is

 

[PensandCaps]

So weird. Holden is so much better than Cole.

Cole couldn't beat out matt fricken hunwick for playing time.

Not even close to true. Not one sane person would take Nick Holden over Ian Cole for a playoff run.

Cole's was playing over Hunwick of late....