Confirmed Trade: [CBJ/OTT] Ian Cole for Nick Moutrey, 2020 3rd round

[fahad203]

On topic

Why did snow pay a 3rd for Davidson instead of cole

Sympathy trade. Snow felt guilty and wanted to pay back Chia in some way

Snow could hand over next 5 years worth of 1st rounders to Chia. That's still won't be enough to make up for the players Chia handed over. Not to mention, Chia will and Oilers will find a way to draft 3rd liners or busts

 

[Eddy Punch Clock]

Does this mean they may move Jack Johnson still?

With the rest of the clowns...... yeah, yeah.

 

[Hossa die Waldfee]

Congrats CBJ. Even if he plays like crap (which he won't) you got one of the nicer guys around the league. Great personality. I admit I'm a little salty, that he is now on your team.

 

[Rasmus CacOlainen]

Where are the "Ian Cole will return a 2nd" people that kept arguing with me?

 

[DesertPenguin]

As a Pens fan I would have paid a 2nd to get him back at 50% retention.

 

[Evergreen]

"Cole to Columbud".
This is what happens when 12 HF posters rush to be the first one to break a trade.

You mean to announce a trade that had already been broken.

 

[llamateizer]

At noon, this is the biggest trade on the TDL

 

[Ragernschnapple]

Nice pickup by the Blue Jackets. Cole is a solid d-man.

 

[SenzZen]

Spelling a JMFJ move?

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDo]

The return for Cole does not make sense. He has the Hero chart of a third pairing d-man. He played adequately w/ JShultz on the Pens 2nd pair, when they were put together. Either Dorion is an idiot, there is a future trade coming down or Uncle Gary is taking care of CBUS again.

 

[Jive Pawnbroker]

Uncle Gary is taking care of CBUS again.

WTF are you talking about here?

 

[Viqsi]

WTF are you talking about here?

I assume that's someone who's annoyed by all the chatter around the Brassard trade trying to take it out on us.

 

[Jive Pawnbroker]

It's the "again" part that threw me. I wasn't aware that Bettman had a crush on the Jackets.

 

[Zirakzigil]

As a Pens fan I’m not happy he was moved back into the division. Sad to say it but good pickup for the Jackets.

 

[mikeyp24]

It's the "again" part that threw me. I wasn't aware that Bettman had a crush on the Jackets.

Canada doesn't respect the Jackets and Bettman allegedly hates Canada if I'm to believe the boards here so if you read between the lines Bettman and the CBJ are in cahoots.

 

[Maplebeasts]

Surprised Cole wasn't moved to a legit contender. He was an excellent option for teams looking for defensive help who didn't want to sell the farm for EK or McDonagh. I would have been happy to trade for him.

 

[mikeyp24]

He was

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

JJ is 99% gone. Kukan, Nutivaara, Harrington, Chorney will fight for that 6 spot.

Don't know what made you think 99%

 

[Karl Eriksson]

Dorion tried to make it a 2050 pick, but the CBA says picks have to be made before the zombie apocalypse.

 

[Toe Pick]

Don't know what made you think 99%

REASONS HE COULD BE TRADED:
1. The Jackets now have 10 NHL defensemen on the roster. I understand depth but this is overkill
2. Cole plays a similar game to Johnson
3. Johnson demanded a trade so it was logical to think Cole's acquisition was the first domino to moving Johnson
4. Jackets have traded two picks (and also don't have a 2nd in 2019) so moving Johnson could recoup some of that currency
5. Johnson is a UFA and cheaper rental option compared to guys like McDonagh

REASONS HE WASN'T TRADED:
1. Jackets have a couple of long term injuries in Kukan and Nutivaara. Murray's long term health is always a question mark as well
2. The offers weren't good enough to move Johnson

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

REASONS HE COULD BE TRADED:
1. The Jackets now have 10 NHL defensemen on the roster. I understand depth but this is overkill
2. Cole plays a similar game to Johnson
3. Johnson demanded a trade so it was logical to think Cole's acquisition was the first domino to moving Johnson
4. Jackets have traded two picks (and also don't have a 2nd in 2019) so moving Johnson could recoup some of that currency
5. Johnson is a UFA and cheaper rental option compared to guys like McDonagh

REASONS HE WASN'T TRADED:
1. Jackets have a couple of long term injuries in Kukan and Nutivaara. Murray's long term health is always a question mark as well
2. The offers weren't good enough to move Johnson

Acquiring Cole, who is also an UFA, makes absolutely zero sense if you're trading JJ.

You're not trading JJ just because he asks for a trade. You're trading him if you don't think you're making the playoffs, or you get an offer you can't refuse.

1) if you're a seller, you're not trading for Cole

2) if Cole's value in the market is a 3rd round pick, JJ is not getting you much more

As soon as this trade was announced to me it was more like 99% he's not going anywhere, not the other way around.

 

[Ralph Malfredsson]

Clearly this is just a prelude to a Karlsson trade.

 

[Toe Pick]

Acquiring Cole, who is also an UFA, makes absolutely zero sense if you're trading JJ.

You're not trading JJ just because he asks for a trade. You're trading him if you don't think you're making the playoffs, or you get an offer you can't refuse.

1) if you're a seller, you're not trading for Cole

2) if Cole's value in the market is a 3rd round pick, JJ is not getting you much more

As soon as this trade was announced to me it was more like 99% he's not going anywhere, not the other way around.

It does make sense if you think you can get more for Johnson than what you spent on Cole and when you already have NINE NHL defensemen.

Hypothetically it could have been Ian Cole + 2nd round pick for Johnson and a 3rd. Get an equal dman and improved pick for a guy who demanded a trade. Obviously it didn’t go down that way but that was the thinking.

 

[Yashole]

Where are the "Ian Cole will return a 2nd" people that kept arguing with me?

3rd and a "b" level prospect seems pretty close in value two a second..... no??

 

[WannabeFinn]

3rd and a "b" level prospect seems pretty close in value two a second..... no??

Columbus 3rd in 2020 will likely be 80th or lower in the draft and Moutrey is a "C" prospect if anything.