Value of: CBJ: Boone Jenner, Ryan Murray and a #1 for......what?

[Viqsi]

I don't think a player like what the OP is looking for is out there. They'd better be getting a legit #1C for that price, not a winger, and I don't see any out there.

I'd be willing to presume eventual NHL #1C ability on the part of William Nylander for purposes of that deal (as opposed to others insisting he is only and will forever remain a winger). But that supposes that the Leafs are willing to give him up, like, at all. (And even asking is likely to provoke a "no, you give us Jones/Werenski" "no, for them you give us Matthews" one-upsmanship flamewar...)

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

You should check out Boone Jenner's possession numbers, and I'm pretty sure that's playing the wing too.

I don't think you understood the context of my post. RNH is overpaid for his production, while Jenner is being paid less than 3M to be a middle-six winger.

 

[mikeyp24]

RNH would be terrible for us, Stepan is similar price for twice the player.

 

[MW6]

Dubois, Jenner and Murray for Ovechkin?

 

[mikeyp24]

Dubois, Jenner and Murray for Ovechkin?

Honestly fair price but we can't afford Ovi.

 

[Crede777]

Dubois, Jenner and Murray for Ovechkin?

Ovechkin isn't getting traded. He definitely isn't getting traded within the division.

 

[dkollidas]

I'm assuming Columbus fans value Dubois more than Jenner? Thinking that ELC and Jenner being a yer away from a bigger contract will impact that valuation.

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

I'm assuming Columbus fans value Dubois more than Jenner? Thinking that ELC and Jenner being a yer away from a bigger contract will impact that valuation.

PLD is also our #1 prospect, so yeah...

 

[mikeyp24]

I'm assuming Columbus fans value Dubois more than Jenner? Thinking that ELC and Jenner being a yer away from a bigger contract will impact that valuation.

Only because we 100% need a 1C not because of anything else.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Lol, measuring Murray's value by his TOI.

He plays tough minutes on ES and PK, would play PP as well if we weren't so loaded in our top 4. Just because he's expendable doesn't mean he's of lesser value.

Nurse edm 1st and Maroon for werenski then. That's what that package is to us in relation to that package for Draisaitl

 

[CBJx614]

Only because we 100% need a 1C not because of anything else.

No. It's because he was drafted 3rd overall and our scouting and FO view him to be not that far behind Laine and Matthew's. Jenner doesnt have much untapped potential, where as with Dubois the sky is the limit.

 

[McFlyingV]

Uhh a player like Nathan MacKinnon or Leon Draisaitl better be coming back in return if those two players are packaged together with a first

The dry saddle will be going no where.

 

[McFlyingV]

No. It's because he was drafted 3rd overall and our scouting and FO view him to be not that far behind Laine and Matthew's. Jenner doesnt have much untapped potential, where as with Dubois the sky is the limit.

Then they must be morons.

 

[Trapper]

I'd be willing to presume eventual NHL #1C ability on the part of William Nylander for purposes of that deal (as opposed to others insisting he is only and will forever remain a winger). But that supposes that the Leafs are willing to give him up, like, at all. (And even asking is likely to provoke a "no, you give us Jones/Werenski" "no, for them you give us Matthews" one-upsmanship flamewar...)

Pretty much this.
Which is why I said the Leafs probably don't have the right pieces to make a deal.
When trading, the Leafs are currently in this position:

1. The high value players they won't move for anything less than a serious overpayment.
2. The middle where the Leafs are lacking in depth. A step down from the above but talented enough to help teams with holes in their lineup and get the deals done.
3. The players everyone says is not enough.

 

[Viqsi]

Then they must be morons.

Well, they felt the same way about Werenski as compared to Hanifin, so it wouldn't be the first time folks have wondered what the heck they were thinking.

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

Well, they felt the same way about Werenski as compared to Hanifin, so it wouldn't be the first time folks have wondered what the heck they were thinking.

RT and fav

 

[mikeyp24]

No. It's because he was drafted 3rd overall and our scouting and FO view him to be not that far behind Laine and Matthew's. Jenner doesnt have much untapped potential, where as with Dubois the sky is the limit.

They certainly don't think THAT high about him but certainly high. Obviously high enough to pick him over the consensus #3 and have no 2nd thoughts pulling the trigger on it.

 

[CBJx614]

They certainly don't think THAT high about him but certainly high. Obviously high enough to pick him over the consensus #3 and have no 2nd thoughts pulling the trigger on it.

Exactly why I said almost. If he was at their level he would have made the team and made a impact. But even if it takes another season before he sticks he could easily have a similar impact they did. And unlike Matthew's he won't be needed to carry the team. He should be able to be put in the best situation for him and the team to succeed.