Player Discussion Carey Price - Need a Jesus Price resurrection [MOD WARNING 526]

[rafalesque]

It's the contract.

Sure, Trade him now for some offence and defence. it will be worth the money spent

 

[Lebowski]

It's the contract.

He earned that contract by being one of the top players in the league for a number of years. Just like how Subban earned his contract.

I understand where you're coming from, but to me it's just silly. You'd think some people would be happier with a bunch of middling players affordable contracts instead of stars, because stars are more expensive...

 

[rafalesque]

i agree 100%

i said in another thread if Lindgren starts playing too well, and wins too many games, he will be sent back down, they down want anybody challenging the almighty Price, no matter how bad he plays

Yes, we need to protect the princess Price. Craps! trade the guy and get some decent stuff. don't forget he is paid millions so I don't feel sorry for him

 

[Genesis76]

He earned that contract by being one of the top players in the league for a number of years. Just like how Subban earned his contract.

I understand where you're coming from, but to me it's just silly. You'd think some people would be happier with a bunch of middling players affordable contracts instead of stars, because stars are more expensive...

At 9 mils a year for Subban its a steal.

Price needs some time thats all

 

[Lebowski]

At 9 mils a year for Subban its a steal.

Price needs some time thats all

Definitely not a steal... It was market value, ergo "fair". Again, nothing wrong with that, especially given how bad the organization screwed him over on the bridge contract. He earned that 9M contract.

A steal would be Hedman signing long term at 7.875M.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

He earned that contract by being one of the top players in the league for a number of years. Just like how Subban earned his contract.

I understand where you're coming from, but to me it's just silly. You'd think some people would be happier with a bunch of middling players affordable contracts instead of stars, because stars are more expensive...

A lot of people have seen the teams that have won champions though and understand that you don't need to pay a goalie $10.5m for 8 years when he's going to be 31 when the contract kicks in to win. We couldn't even win with him at $6.5m (that's on Bergevin) but still.

We're good enough in the pipelines with Lindgren especially that I'm not surprised people hate the deal and are turning on Carey. I'm not completely one of those people yet, but I'm not against using a compliance buyout on Carey in 3-4 years after the lockout to get out of the deal if we can retain Lindgren until then and he continues to progress as he has. Carey Price isn't going to get better as the contract carries on and he gets older. If he signed it as a 25-26 year old, that's a different story.

 

[Belial]

He was with the team all this time... This is after the Chicago win.

 

[CauZuki]

He was with the team all this time... This is after the Chicago win.

Apparently Bergevin was right the secret to success is in the locker room. We now understand that means leaving Price in the locker room.

 

[Genesis76]

Definitely not a steal... It was market value, ergo "fair". Again, nothing wrong with that, especially given how bad the organization screwed him over on the bridge contract. He earned that 9M contract.

A steal would be Hedman signing long term at 7.875M.

Cmon man, Subban brings ao much to the table. alot of people dont aooreciate all the aspects of his game.

Just the fact that he plays at such pace in every game and he rarely gets injured... nvm the points, nvm the energy, nvm the pressure under which he thrives. Just that is enough to give him 5.5 mils a year.

How much is a good plug worth these day? 2.5 mils? 4.5 if you are MB?

How much a PP specialist is worth? 3-4.5 mils?

How much a playoff performer is worth? 3 mils? 5.5 if you are MB?

How much is Good normal D worth who can play up to 30 mins is worth? 6 mils?

A good PK specialist? 4 mils?

Dude this guy saves you over 20 mils all in all. Hes more than his contract.

 

[nhlfan9191]

If Lindgren keeps playing well, I’d continue to let Price work on/or rest his injury a little bit longer. If Price is motivated after the rookies sensational game, then let him come back.

 

[nhlfan9191]

Definitely not a steal... It was market value, ergo "fair". Again, nothing wrong with that, especially given how bad the organization screwed him over on the bridge contract. He earned that 9M contract.

A steal would be Hedman signing long term at 7.875M.

Hedman was just good management. He would’ve bent Bergevin over too. Guy is out of his league as a GM in this league.

 

[nhlfan9191]

A lot of people have seen the teams that have won champions though and understand that you don't need to pay a goalie $10.5m for 8 years when he's going to be 31 when the contract kicks in to win. We couldn't even win with him at $6.5m (that's on Bergevin) but still.

We're good enough in the pipelines with Lindgren especially that I'm not surprised people hate the deal and are turning on Carey. I'm not completely one of those people yet, but I'm not against using a compliance buyout on Carey in 3-4 years after the lockout to get out of the deal if we can retain Lindgren until then and he continues to progress as he has. Carey Price isn't going to get better as the contract carries on and he gets older. If he signed it as a 25-26 year old, that's a different story.

Don’t know why you’re mentioning the cup with this team. Price wasn’t signed to win a cup, he was signed to keep the team competitive and in the playoffs even if the roster we have doesn’t deserve it. The only thing Bergevin was trying to do was ensure he stays employed longer.

 

[Frank Drebin]

He earned that contract by being one of the top players in the league for a number of years. Just like how Subban earned his contract.

I understand where you're coming from, but to me it's just silly. You'd think some people would be happier with a bunch of middling players affordable contracts instead of stars, because stars are more expensive...

I don't even care about the cap hit, but its the length and age when it starts. Price is going to be great for another 4/5 years and I think at that cap hit the max length should have been 5-6 years, or a lesser cap hit for 8 years. He took Bergie to the cleaners on that one.

I'm worried about the last 4 years of that contract, when we have young studs in goal that we will have to move out because we can't even afford to give them bridge contract type money.

 

[BaseballCoach]

He’s obviously not talking about right now.

LOL. If he was healthy we wouldn't be having the whole discussion. Do you think healthy players play like he has played? Isn't his amateur-level performances what has turned some fans off of him?

Connect the dots!

 

[Svart]

big contracts can make a player lazy.....nothing to prove anymore,

and big goalie contracts rarely ever pay off or win anything....luquist, rask, dipietro, etc etc,

Price contract will be no different,

5-6 years ago a friend of mine (not a habs fan) said to me that the habs will never win a cup with Price.....back then i laughed at him, but now i think he was right

it's not Price the problem... it's the GM
with Price and the right GM in MTL, a cup is possible

 

[Scintillating10]

Price will be starting next year this time even if he plays rest of year like he has so far. Price will be given every opportunity...Not much else Habs can do...he has full no-trade and no way can Habs contend strapped with a 10.5 millon bad caphit.

 

[Scintillating10]

A lot of people have seen the teams that have won champions though and understand that you don't need to pay a goalie $10.5m for 8 years when he's going to be 31 when the contract kicks in to win. We couldn't even win with him at $6.5m (that's on Bergevin) but still.

We're good enough in the pipelines with Lindgren especially that I'm not surprised people hate the deal and are turning on Carey. I'm not completely one of those people yet, but I'm not against using a compliance buyout on Carey in 3-4 years after the lockout to get out of the deal if we can retain Lindgren until then and he continues to progress as he has. Carey Price isn't going to get better as the contract carries on and he gets older. If he signed it as a 25-26 year old, that's a different story.

True enough...difference between Price and a Lindgren isn't 10 million dollars. Goalies aren't as important as they were during trap era. Since '04 rule changes best goalie in game Price, Luongo, Lundqvist, Miller none have won a Cup. While Osgood, Neimi, Fleury have. Prove is in the pudding

 

[Cole Caulifield]

How can people say in the same breath that Price is all that but they hate his contract ? If Price was as good as his contract you wouldn't care about it. I never thought Subban's deal was an albatross. Not on day 1 or until he was traded. He was worth it. Price ? Not really. Only if he plays like he did once in his career, and hasn't since.

 

[ECWHSWI]

A lot of people have seen the teams that have won champions though and understand that you don't need to pay a goalie $10.5m for 8 years when he's going to be 31 when the contract kicks in to win. We couldn't even win with him at $6.5m (that's on Bergevin) but still.

We're good enough in the pipelines with Lindgren especially that I'm not surprised people hate the deal and are turning on Carey. I'm not completely one of those people yet, but I'm not against using a compliance buyout on Carey in 3-4 years after the lockout to get out of the deal if we can retain Lindgren until then and he continues to progress as he has. Carey Price isn't going to get better as the contract carries on and he gets older. If he signed it as a 25-26 year old, that's a different story.

not surprised either, we could already see it at the end last season when idiots were blaming him for the PO while he was giving less than 2 a game...

but, considering how bad Bergevin is at building a strong team both offensively and defensively, paying top dollar for a goalie is the only option...


people love Lingren now and some probably think he's the next Roy, they forgot the season we missed the PO, Condon did just fine the first few games he had to be the starter...

 

[drebola]

At 9 mils a year for Subban its a steal.

Price needs some time thats all

9M for Subban is a disaster.

 

[ECWHSWI]

9M for Subban is a disaster.

Poile agree with you.

 

[Genesis76]

9M for Subban is a disaster.

Its a disaster for Subban? What are you talking about

11pts in 14 games is a disaster?? what non sense.

 

[SOLR]

not surprised either, we could already see it at the end last season when idiots were blaming him for the PO while he was giving less than 2 a game...

but, considering how bad Bergevin is at building a strong team both offensively and defensively, paying top dollar for a goalie is the only option...

This doesn't make any sense at all. Goalies can't bail out 21 players in today's NHL. They can't trap it like they did for Roy or how Brodeur would get 16 shots a game. Today, if you find yourself in a situation where your goalie is saving the rest in short periods, trade him, and fix the rest! You will never win a cup playing the goalie game today. It's a center man game + offensive D, right now. If you don't have those pieces you have no real shot.

 

[habsgirl5000]

This doesn't make any sense at all. Goalies can't bail out 21 players in today's NHL. They can't trap it like they did for Roy or how Brodeur would get 16 shots a game. Today, if you find yourself in a situation where your goalie is saving the rest in short periods, trade him, and fix the rest! You will never win a cup playing the goalie game today. It's a center man game + offensive D, right now. If you don't have those pieces you have no real shot.

agreed 100%

we don't have those pieces and are far from them, which is why this season is toast already,

another crappy draft pick, here we come!

 

[ECWHSWI]

This doesn't make any sense at all. Goalies can't bail out 21 players in today's NHL. They can't trap it like they did for Roy or how Brodeur would get 16 shots a game. Today, if you find yourself in a situation where your goalie is saving the rest in short periods, trade him, and fix the rest! You will never win a cup playing the goalie game today. It's a center man game + offensive D, right now. If you don't have those pieces you have no real shot.

I know. the GM doesnt is still in the 90's though.