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You’re not getting Aho unless Nylander is coming back. Even then it’s a tough sell.
Proposal: Car/Tor
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Fellow Leaf fans just give this 1 to them, I just realized we are comparing our 4/5th best player to their best. so since Marner and Aho are so close just let em have it
| 3 | Mitch Marner | 20 | C | 59 | 13 | 32 | 45 | -6 | 16 | 8 | 5 | 0 | 2 | 22 | 10 | 0 | 138 | 9.4 | 931 | 15:46 | 3.7 | 0.6 | 4.3 | 18 | 20 | 41 | 36 | 53.2 |
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| Rk | Player | Age | Pos | GP | G | A | PTS | +/- | PIM | EV | PP | SH | GW | EV | PP | SH | S | S% | TOI | ATOI | OPS | DPS | PS | BLK | HIT | FOW | FOL | FO% |
| 1 | Sebastian Aho | 20 | RW | 55 | 21 | 25 | 46 | -4 | 16 | 16 | 5 | 0 | 3 | 18 | 7 | 0 | 153 | 13.7 | 988 | 17:57 | 4.4 | 1.1 | 5.5 | 13 | 40 | 21 | 22 | 48.8 |
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Both Aho`s OPS and DPS are better than Marners. So is his points and goals. The only thing Marner has better is his FO%. Ooh and marner is -6 on a + team. Aho is -4 on a much worse team. How is it possible for a sheltered player like Marner?
Please look at the stats I provided:
Mitch Marner Points/60 Minutes: 2.901
Sebastian Aho Points/60 Minutes: 2.794
Marner: [Blocked Shots: 18, Turnovers: 32, Take-Aways: 55, Face-off Wins: 41, Face-off Losses: 36]
Aho: [Blocked Shots: 13, Turnovers: 42, Take-Aways: 44, Face-off Wins: 21, Face-off Losses: 22]
LMAOOOO
YOUR OWN STATS SHOW THAT MARNER IS BETTER THAN AHO 
Vincenzo Arellitti
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Leafs aren't trading Marner. Canes aren't trading Aho. Pointless to argue who is better right now. I watch and root for both teams and they are, IMO, fairly equal at this point in time. How they will end up, who knows.
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yup they are close enough that the debate is interesting but pointless.
What about Points P/60?
What about Blocked Shots?
What about Turnovers?
What about Take-Aways?
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Boom Boom Apathy
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Correct. Their current P/60 would mean a difference of 2 points total over a full season. It's in the noise.
Needless to say, the Canes wouldn't do the rest of the deal either since JVR is a UFA to be.
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they have differences tho, since you follow both Aho is way more fluid than Marner, when Marner is on his game he is a water bug just constantly moving his feet while Aho looks effortless while schooling fools.
Point is: I provided stats displaying, CLEARLY, Marner's prowess over Aho. Yet, there are still Canes' fans BLINDLY saying Aho > Marner.
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We can have our own Seguin vs Hall debates for the next decade. No one's saying Marner is bad, and no one's saying Aho is bad, outside of this one dude going off about Marner being ten times better at faceoffs.
Neither team would move these players.
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no the trade is still bad and you should feel shame
The Man with a Plan
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With the way some posters are getting soo qworked up you would swear that this trade was actually made and not just fictional malarkey.
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Marner is more exciting and explosive. I get more of a "Wow" factor watching Mitch and when he's on top of his game and puts it all together, he's dynamic and dangerous. He has the ability to put guys back on their heels more often. He also is better with more space, which is why he's more dangerous on the PP, where there is more time and space.
Aho isn't as dynamic, but like you said, he's looks effortless and is more fluid. He's got a better shot, is a more natural goal scorer, has deceptive speed, and he's stronger than Mitch. Both are good defensively and will only get better.
The people that say one has better vision or hockey sense than the other (which I know isn't directly measurable), just don't watch the two or are way too biased. Aho is one of the most instinctive hockey players I've ever seen. His movement without the puck is uncanny and his vision is incredible. There's a reason people in Finland call him the professor because he sees the ice so well, with or without the puck. Marner, similarly has fantastic vision as well and his ability to see the ice at speed is incredible. Both of them are incredibly smart and have superb vision.
I think Marner probably has more upside offensively if he puts it all together.
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Boom Boom Apathy
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That's not what was said. There are ZERO Canes fans who would do it, not one. There are some Leafs fans that said they would and other ones that don't want to trade Mitch, but acknowledge the Canes wouldn't do it either because the value isn't fair.
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If Marner were to sacrifice on his back checking then maybe. 1 thing about Marner that blows me away is his hand eye co ordination.
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it's a wonder that people are so worried about UFA's, no one heard of a sign and trade?
happened not to long ago if I recall
happened not to long ago if I recall
therealkoho
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btw I like Aho, nice player with excellent hands, but Mitch Marner is just on another level
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therealkoho
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Yeah I'm sure Leaf fans watch the sad sack Carolina Hurricanes team enough to come away with such a conclusion. If Marner is truly on another level, then he's going to be a top 10 player of his generation. Don't hold your breath on that one though.
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isn't Fleury the type of return a rental JVR would get? or am I sleeping on this kid?
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