Confirmed Signing with Link: [CAR] Jesperi Kotkaniemi signs offersheet with the Hurricanes (1 year, $6.100035M) [Part II]

[danyhabsfan]

I'm not deep diving this thread. What the hell is with the 20 dollar signing bonus? That smells like it has more of a personal meaning attached to it.

Aho #20

 

[Syckle78]

Ok last 3 offer sheet was for established NHL players.

Ryan Oreilly
Shea Weber
Sebastian Aho

all these players were at the time young superstars.

kotkaniemi has not produced anything close. 34 points is the lowest productivity in the history of any offer sheet

Oreilly was absolutely not a young super star at the time.

 

[Luck 6]

I'm not deep diving this thread. What the hell is with the 20 dollar signing bonus? That smells like it has more of a personal meaning attached to it.

Aho is No 20 I believe.

 

[Syckle78]

I think MTL have enough picks, young prospects to make a deal with Buffalo.

Buffalo isn't going to take a pupu platter of mediocre picks and prospects no matter how high you pile em up. You need an enticing center piece.

 

[Lempo]

Can Canadiens also trade him away right now? I don't think Hurricanes have such option, but do Canadiens? I know that after this "matching time" is over he can't be traded, but does it extend to this very moment also?

No.

Once an Offer Sheet for a Restricted Free Agent has been received by the Prior Club, the Prior Club may not Trade or otherwise Assign its Right of First Refusal for such Restricted Free Agent.

 

[Arto Kilponen]

believe MTL could trade him right now

the team trading for him would be under the same constraints tho. not sure how likely that would be now that this OS is out there

Yeah, just thinking that this is pretty strong argument that it is still Canadiens player if Canadiens can trade him away.

The likelihood doesn't really matter in this context.

 

[T REX]

I agree, my one disagreement is this:

A "Contending" team does that at the deadline to address it's greatest need, and quite often going into the playoffs... that's adding a defender (though a C never hurts).

Aho
Trochek
Staal

seems like a decent C corps for a playoff run.

Skjei-DeAngelo
Cole-Bear

does not seem like a good 2nd and 3rd pairing for a playoff run. Would the $6m and the 1st and 3rd be better used at the deadline to add to that group as opposed to spending it now on a luxury that was more about hurting the other guy rather than helping yourself?

Boom. Great post. The opportunity cost of sticking it to Montreal is you can't upgrade elsewhere...like the crappy goaltending problem...yikes.

 

[Arto Kilponen]

No.

Ok, well then it sounds to me like Kotkaniemi isn't anyone's player right now. He will be either Montreal's or Carolina's player, but as of right now, sounds like he really isn't anyone's player.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

No.

I stand corrected.. good info! thx!

 

[Lempo]

Ok, well then it sounds to me like Kotkaniemi isn't anyone's player right now. He will be either Montreal's or Carolina's player, but as of right now, sounds like he really isn't anyone's player.

This seems to be a fair assessment. He's quantum.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Buffalo isn't going to take a pupu platter of mediocre picks and prospects no matter how high you pile em up. You need an enticing center piece.

And Kotkaniemi was that enticing center piece?

 

[JRichard]

I think MTL have enough picks, young prospects to make a deal with Buffalo.

Buf will not trade Eichel for 2 1st and young prospects… if you are not ready to let go of at least 1 young nhl player Caufield or Suzuki you are dreaming.
Plus got to factor in cap. You cant take 10 mil and Buf wont go for Drouin/Toffoli

Think 2 firsts, Caufield, Guhle. Habs cant do it.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

Boom. Great post. The opportunity cost of sticking it to Montreal is you can't upgrade elsewhere...like the crappy goaltending problem...yikes.

didn't they already address goaltending by getting Raanta and Anderson?

 

[Syckle78]

And Kotkaniemi was that enticing center piece?

Of course not, I don't know why you are even asking me that. To me the only guy that would pique their interest is Suzuki and the Habs aren't moving him.

 

[Arto Kilponen]

Oreilly was absolutely not a young super star at the time.

O'Reilly had one six games and one goal playoff-season behind him, Kotkaniemi has seven goals from the last ~year in playoffs.

edit. Nine, not seven goals.

 

[Syckle78]

O'Reilly had one six games and one goal playoff-season behind him, Kotkaniemi has seven goals from the last ~year in playoffs.

Ok and in your world that makes orielly a young nhl super star how exactly?

 

[Frank Drebin]

Of course not, I don't know why you are even asking me that.

Because the narrative is now from some posters is that somehow this kayboshes a potential eichle trade, because no kk no deal.

It's funny no?

 

[JRichard]

And Kotkaniemi was that enticing center piece?

Of course he wasnt/isnt. One of 4 pieces yes.
First, Romanov, Kotkaniemi, Caufield was a serious Eichel offer

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

This seems to be a fair assessment. He's quantum.

he's in limbo.. for a week anyways

 

[Syckle78]

Because the narrative is now from some posters is that somehow this kayboshes a potential eichle trade, because no kk no deal.

It's funny no?

Um nobody outside of Montreal is saying that without it dripping in sarcasm though.

 

[albator71]

Buffalo isn't going to take a pupu platter of mediocre picks and prospects no matter how high you pile em up. You need an enticing center piece.

I agree Eichel is not going to Montreal, he wants play in the States, he wants to win a cup and thats not going to happen in Montreal.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

Because the narrative is now from some posters is that somehow this kayboshes a potential eichle trade, because no kk no deal.

It's funny no?

I think the point those folks were hanging on was he was the piece they were willing to give up. not someone more significant like Suzuki..etc

 

[Hitemwith4]

I'm not deep diving this thread. What the hell is with the 20 dollar signing bonus? That smells like it has more of a personal meaning attached to it.

Aho jersey number

 

[Frank Drebin]

Of course he wasnt/isnt. One of 4 pieces yes.
First, Romanov, Kotkaniemi, Caufield was a serious Eichel offer

Buffalo won't get close to that. Remove caufield

 

[T REX]

didn't they already address goaltending by getting Raanta and Anderson?

BUWAHAHAHAHAHA...you think that is championship caliber goaltending?

Even the biggest homer would say NO.

What a horrible offseason for Carolina.

 

[Arto Kilponen]

Ok and in your world that makes orielly a young nhl super star how exactly?

It specifically doesn't. In my opinion, comparing the player careers before turning 21, Kotkaniemi was either better or at the very least as good O'Reilly was.