GDT: CANADA VS FINLAND June 1st

mattihp

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Finnish lines, any one know the canadian lines?
Starter: 45 Jussi Olkinuora
Backup: 29 Harri Säteri
1:
80 Saku Mäenalanen – 24 Hannes Björninen – 12 Marko Anttila
6 Tony Sund – 50 Miika Koivisto
2:
22 Arttu Ruotsalainen – 15 Anton Lundell – 20 Niko Ojamäki
3 Olli Määttä – 7 Oliwer Kaski
3:
21 Jere Innala – 27 Petri Kontiola – 81 Iiro Pakarinen
55 Atte Ohtamaa – 2 Ville Pokka
4:
38 Teemu Turunen – 13 Mikael Ruohomaa – 76 Jere Sallinen
40 Petteri Lindbohm – 39 Kim Nousiainen
 

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I’m pretty sure if Canada gets just 1 point in this game, then Germany and Latvia can conspire to go to overtime so both of them make it.

But if Canada loses in regulation, only one of them can make it (also if Canada wins). Just thought that was funny lol
 

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I’m pretty sure if Canada gets just 1 point in this game, then Germany and Latvia can conspire to go to overtime so both of them make it.

But if Canada loses in regulation, only one of them can make it (also if Canada wins). Just thought that was funny lol
How does Latvia make the next round if both Latvia and Canada get a point tonight?
 

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I’m pretty sure if Canada gets just 1 point in this game, then Germany and Latvia can conspire to go to overtime so both of them make it.

But if Canada loses in regulation, only one of them can make it (also if Canada wins). Just thought that was funny lol

How does Latvia make the next round if both Latvia and Canada get a point tonight?

I looked it up.

IIHF tiebreaker procedure - Tournament Info said:
Tie breaking formula

The tie-breaking system for two teams with the same number of points in a standing will be the game between the two teams, the winner of the game taking precedence.
Due to the fact that the three-point system does not allow a game to end in a tie, then the following tie breaking procedure is applicable when three or more teams are tied in points in a Championship standing.
Should three or more teams be tied on points, then a tie breaking formula will be applied as follows, creating a sub-group amongst the tied teams. This process will continue until only two or none of the teams remain tied. In the case of two tied teams remaining, the game between the two would then be the determining tie-breaker as the game could not end as a tie. In the case of none of the teams being tied, the criteria specified in the respective step applies.
Step 1: Taking into consideration the games between each of the tied teams, a sub-group is created applying the points awarded in the direct games amongst the tied teams from which the teams are then ranked accordingly.
Step 2: Should three or more teams still remain tied in points then the better goal difference in the direct games amongst the tied teams will be decisive.
Step 3: Should three or more teams still remain tied in points and goal difference then the highest number of goals scored by these teams in their direct games will be decisive
Step 4: Should three or more teams still remain tied in points, goal difference and goals scored then the results between each of the three teams and the closest best-ranked team outside the sub-group will be applied. In this case the tied team with the best result (1. points, 2. goal difference, 3. more goals scored) against the closest best ranked-team will take precedence
Step 5: Should the teams still remain tied, then the results between each of the three teams and the next highest best-ranked team outside the sub-group will be applied.
Step 6: Should the teams still remain tied after these five steps have been exercised then Sport considerations will be applied and the teams will be ranked by their positions coming into the Championship (seeding).
In the case where two teams are tied and they have not yet played against each other, and in the
case where three or more teams are tied and not all mutual games have been played within the subgroup, the following criteria will be used to break the tie: 1. fewest number of games played, 2. highest goal Difference in all games, 3. highest number of goals for in all games, 4. highest tournament seeding entering the tournament.

Can vs Lat = 0-2
Lat vs Kaz = 2-3
Can vs Kaz = 4-2

Can = 0, Lat = +1, Kaz = -1

If I'm correct, then Latvia gets the tiebreaker in the 3 team scenario.

I also did Germany one point OT game.

Ger vs Can = 3-1
Kaz vs Ger = 3-2
Can vs Kaz = 4-2

Can = 0, Kaz = -1, Ger = +1

Germany would have the tiebreaker here.

So Canadians need to win in reg or OT. Kaz fan fans should be rooting for Germany vs Latvia regulation win, and a Finland regulation win.
 
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Pandaman11

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It will be a winner-takes-it-all game for both Germany and Latvia. In one scenario both teams would advance: If Canada loses to Finland in OT/SO and the Germany-Latvia game ends up tied after 60 minutes going to OT/SO.

Why are on the last matchday games from the same group not played at the same time? Now, if Canada loses to Finland in OT/SO, Germany and Latvia can avoid taking risks and just take the tie after 60', screwing over Kazakhstan
 

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How does Latvia make the next round if both Latvia and Canada get a point tonight?
It would put Canada, Kazakhstan, and Latvia in a 3 way tie, so the winner of the tiebreaker is the team with the most points in games between those teams. Latvia had 4, Canada 3, and Kazakhstan 2.
Assuming tiebreakers are done the same way as the WJC
 

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The Great People of Kazakhstan are for the Suomi today but not me, sorry. This will be one of the rarest occasions I'm for the team Canada.
 

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Can vs Lat = 0-2
Lat vs Kaz = 2-3
Can vs Kaz = 4-2

Can = 0, Lat = +1, Kaz = -1

If I'm correct, then Latvia gets the tiebreaker in the 3 team scenario.

I also did Germany one point OT game.

Ger vs Can = 3-2
Kaz vs Ger = 3-2
Can vs Kaz = 4-2

Can = 0, Kaz = -1, Ger = +1

Germany would have the tiebreaker here.

So Canadians need to win in Reg or OT. Kaz fan fans should be rooting for Germany vs Latvia regulation win, and a Finland regulation win.
 
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weklof

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Canada looking to do what Sweden failed with last night. I am envious of the Canadian "never say die"-mentality. They always seem to crawl them back out of whatever hole they've dugged themselves into, both in games and in tournaments. No lead is ever safe against Canada. I wish we had more of that in Sweden
 

QnebO

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First time probably ever, that I feel kinda "meh" about winning this one. Ofc rather win, but honestly, I dont care because seeing Canada drop at this stage would just make the gold worth less somehow. Imagine playing Kazakstan and something like that in medal rounds, Id rather see classic hockey powerhouses in those games.

Edit: Nothing against Kazaks and others, like Germany, becoming better. Its really good for the sport. But itd be strange if Canada was out of the QF now when Sweden is also out.

Edit2: Do we even get easier opponent to Quarters with W?
 
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BlitzSnipe

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Never count the Finns out, though. They have some 'surprises' in store for the unsuspecting :).
 

weklof

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Edit2: Do we even get easier opponent to Quarters with W?

I think 3-4 in the other group are Slovakia and Czechs (barring bottle jobs from Switzerland and Russia). Which one finishes were will be decided by their game in the afternoon.
 

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How trash is this schedule? This kind of a matchup, at this time of the day?
 

mattihp

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This finnish team would be so much worse without Lundell and Ruotsalainen. I hope they build some chemistry so that they can make each other even better.
 

QnebO

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Refs and linesmen are definitely playing for team Canada all the way. Now I got a spark and motivation to root us for Win, good.

Two Scoring chances taken away in 10 minutes from Finland by linesman alone. Blatant offside call and absolutely horrible icing call, wont happen by mistake if you arent really hoping for another team to win. Lundel didint even touch the Canadian player probably where he got 2min, and Canucks got a goal from it.

Edit:
Linesman even making a perfect screen for Kaski trying to gift a breakaway for Canada. :D Either these guys suck at their job or they are biggest Canada fans.
 
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