C Mitchell Marner - London Knights, OHL (2015, 4th, TOR) IV

[So Truculent]

You guys aren't giving Holland enough love. I see him as a perfect 3C going forward.
I like Kadri but if we did get Matthews or Stamkos, I'd like to move him for a guy like Dumba or Theodore.

Babcock doesn't even like playing Holland as a C right now...so doubt he is part of the future center core

 

[Duke749]

Lame. I could that.

 

[jacks*]

Not a Leaf fan but what a nice goal.

 

[Paperbagofglory]

Not a single one of those Niagara players attack the puck carrier, they just try and poke at the puck and follow it while he dangles through them.

Ah so that's who Justin Schultz is learning from.

 

[Raging Bull]

Nice goal. Tough crowd in here.

 

[Raging Bull]

Really nice goal, but not really GOTY material.

If it isn't, what is?

 

[Stats01]

Really nice goal, but not really GOTY material.

If that isn't GOTY material then please go and show us what is.

 

[Shwaguy*]

It's kind of like Domi last season. Domi was their best player but it's not like London was nothing without him.

Marner was without a doubt London's best player last season too, not Domi.

 

[Stats01]

It's kind of like Domi last season. Domi was their best player but it's not like London was nothing without him.

Domi was part of the core of that team obviously but Marner was also the best player last year as well.

 

[Atomos2]

Let us know when he plays well against good competition, as opposed to when he sucked in the WJC.

Guess who the american goaltender at the WJC was?

 

[Brewsky]

Guess who the american goaltender at the WJC was?

I saw Perlini there as well, high draft pick...they'll twist it anyway they want.

Marner is a beauty, but he will be a RW in the NHL.

 

[wayne]

Not saying it is GOTY or not, but it was a fantastic goal no matter what.

Also, Marner did not "suck" at WJC...seriously. This forum is so binary, almost bi-polar at times.

 

[Bardown warrior]

I saw Perlini there as well, high draft pick...they'll twist it anyway they want.

Marner is a beauty, but he will be a RW in the NHL.

Defencemen on teh play was Vince Dunn... who is no slouch himself

 

[Lexus]

Vine of the goal, via HWC.

 

[Atomos2]

It's a great OHL goal, but it's clearly a minor league defense and he'd get run over trying to pull that in the NHL. Not a single one of those Niagara players attack the puck carrier, they just try and poke at the puck and follow it while he dangles through them.

Great stick handling from Marner though, there is no doubt he has a ton of talent.

?

Are you serious? Marner looked like he was taking a shot so Dunn tried to get in the shooting lane and then Marner faked him out. That's what led to the scrambled recovery attempt. You know defencemen block shots in the NHL too .

 

[hawksrule]

Not saying it is GOTY or not, but it was a fantastic goal no matter what.

Also, Marner did not "suck" at WJC...seriously. This forum is so binary, almost bi-polar at times.

You must not have watched his game against the USA. Or Switzerland. Or Sweden.

Sucked.

 

[Thebesthockey]

not partcularly a marner fan

but kid has great hands
will be a solid top six forward in nhl

 

[Blender]

?

Are you serious? Marner looked like he was taking a shot so Dunn tried to get in the shooting lane and then Marner faked him out. That's what led to the scrambled recovery attempt. You know defencemen block shots in the NHL too .

A good defenseman in the NHL would not typically stop skating and try and block a shot in the slot, they would step up and physically engage the player. Especially when they have other players coming back in support from his own team. Marner's stick handling is unreal on this goal, but Dunn gets torched because he stops skating and puck watches. The forward coming back is hardly skating and barely engages him as well, he'd get stapled to the bench in the NHL for that.

It's a great highlight reel OHL goal that really shows off Marner's puck skills, but it can't be denied that there is far more time and space in juniors than the NHL.

 

[Atomos2]

A good defenseman in the NHL would not typically stop skating and try and block a shot in the slot, they would step up and physically engage the player. Especially when they have other players coming back in support from his own team. Marner's stick handling is unreal on this goal, but Dunn gets torched because he stops skating and puck watches. The forward coming back is hardly skating and barely engages him as well, he'd get stapled to the bench in the NHL for that.

It's a great highlight reel OHL goal that really shows off Marner's puck skills, but it can't be denied that there is far more time and space in juniors than the NHL.

Rarely do good NHL dman hit a player who's in a prime scoring position in the slot. They use their stick to try and deflect the puck out of play or at least get in the shooting lane. That's basic defending, even though Don Cherry gets pissed when they do that. Anyway, to point out the problem with the bolded part -
Arguably the best defenceman in the NHL:

 

[Blender]

Arguably the best defenceman in the NHL:

Since when is Karlsson even close to the best defenseman at defending? He is amazing and on another level when he or his team has the puck, not so much without it.

 

[TheFinnishTrap]

If it isn't, what is?

Well I can't point out any specific goals on the spot, but IMO that goal wasn't GOTY worthy. The deke doesn't look all that special to me, and while the finish shows great hands, it alone doesn't make it a GOTY candidate. Keep in mind this is just my opinion and just because everything a Leaf prospect does isn't the best ever doesn't mean he isn't a good prospect.

 

[Atomos2]

Since when is Karlsson even close to the best defenseman at defending? He is amazing and on another level when he or his team has the puck, not so much without it.

You talk about all these invisible NHL defencemen who actually engage physically with their opponent in a prime scoring area. Can you actually give us examples and put faces to these NHL dmen, because what I usually see with the smart #1 dmen like Vlasic, Keith and Doughty are active sticks and the high hockey iq to get into shooting lanes to prevent scoring opportunities. Physicality usually comes when the puck is along the boards or when trying to clear the front of the net, not in a prime scoring area where all the player has to do is shoot to get a dangerous shot on net.

 

[BWDude]

Well I can't point out any specific goals on the spot, but IMO that goal wasn't GOTY worthy. The deke doesn't look all that special to me, and while the finish shows great hands, it alone doesn't make it a GOTY candidate. Keep in mind this is just my opinion and just because everything a Leaf prospect does isn't the best ever doesn't mean he isn't a good prospect.

Lots of year left to go, but that McDavid goal on Columbus was pretty sweet too, no? Anyways, could be the CHL GOTY definitely and can't wait for him to start embarrassing the big boys up in the NHL.

 

[Mitchy]

You must not have watched his game against the USA. Or Switzerland. Or Sweden.

Sucked.

Clearly the one who did not watch was you. lmao at him sucking in the USA and Sweden games.

 

[TheFinnishTrap]

what do you expect from a bust? im just shocked he can do up his own laces

[mod] The goal was great, but not GOTY.