Proposal: Bruins Trade Proposals/Rumours '17 - '18 II (post 'em here)

[ODAAT]

when all is said and done, unless an injury occurs in the next few weeks (knock on wood it doesn`t) my gut tells me Sweeney stands pat and rolls with what he has and while it won`t make for a ton of excitement here, I`ll be ok with it

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

when all is said and done, unless an injury occurs in the next few weeks (knock on wood it doesn`t) my gut tells me Sweeney stands pat and rolls with what he has and while it won`t make for a ton of excitement here, I`ll be ok with it

I beg to differ. There will be a lot of excitement here

 

[Glove Malfunction]

It doesn't make sense at all to deal Carlo + for McDonagh IMO. I honestly think you could make a case that Carlo at $790k (ELC) for the next 1.5 years is one of the most valuable assets in the organization. Specifically with this team being so top heavy in contracts and weak on RHD. He still has several years of control after that. McDonagh is hugely valuable himself, but show me another team that's giving up a proven top-4 NHL defeneman on an ELC +++.

There's a lot of logic in this post.

 

[Mainehockey33]

The Oilers are surrounding their speed and skill guys Draistl and McDavid with big tough guys like Lucic, Maroon and Kassian. How are they doing with that mix of skill and size? Bottom of the league.

 

[Fenian24]

What is this fascination with Max McCormick? I've seen you advocate for the Bruins to acquire him before.

Can't crack the Senators roster, 12 NHL games in the past two seasons, yet somehow you think he'd have a place on the Bruins?

Let me guess, he throws punches.

Maybe the Bruins can get lucky and convince the Sens to include Tyler Randell in the deal as well.

McCormick has produced at a minor league level, is a very good skater and, yup, he can and will fight. He hits as much as Noel Acciari but is more consistent physically, Acciari can be a physical force but not every game. Love Tyler Randell back and Calgary can leave Hathaway here after tomorrows game as well.

Sorry I'm not on board with the NHL/European/College hybrid the game has become and still want some toughness on the team.

 

[Fenian24]

The Oilers are surrounding their speed and skill guys Draistl and McDavid with big tough guys like Lucic, Maroon and Kassian. How are they doing with that mix of skill and size? Bottom of the league.

And they have a terrible D and gave up a top left winger to get a decent defenseman. Oilers problem isn't it's forwards, it's goaltending and D.

 

[Mainehockey33]

And they have a terrible D and gave up a top left winger to get a decent defenseman. Oilers problem isn't it's forwards, it's goaltending and D.

I’m not against bringing in someone with size as long as they have skill, and no one on Edmonton jumps out at me. There’s also a question of if they’ll fit. Remember Lucic’s last year here? He and Krejci lost their magic and Lucic found his game again with Spooner and Pastrnak. I’m not sure Krejci can turn a slow skating winger with size into a weapon like he could in his prime.

 

[JP Nolan]

when all is said and done, unless an injury occurs in the next few weeks (knock on wood it doesn`t) my gut tells me Sweeney stands pat and rolls with what he has and while it won`t make for a ton of excitement here, I`ll be ok with it

That would be a clear indication that the GM is in over his head. If the teams around us get better and he stands pat.......For me it would be time to seriously question if he has the stones for the job. That said, i think he goes all in.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

That would be a clear indication that the GM is in over his head. If the teams around us get better and he stands pat.......For me it would be time to seriously question if he has the stones for the job. That said, i think he goes all in.

@ODAAT

Like I said...There will be plenty of excitement around here if Sweeney stands pat, and this is one of the guys I see leading the charge of excitement.

 

[Jdavidev]

Agreed. I don't want to lose Carlo nor his very cap friendly contract. Hopefully we can give up another prospect instead in a trade for McDonagh. He's really a great choice for the Bruins if available for reasonable price. As others have mentioned he bridges that gap from Chara to the next generation of Bruins defenders.

Well, he doesn't exactly bridge the gap between Chara and next generation, as he's an UFA in a little over a year, and unless Chara has a major injury in the playoffs, I expect will sign a two-year deal. So Chara fills the gap between Chara and the next generation. They can resign McD, but then they could sign him as an UFA anyways at that point.

I'm not saying don't get him and he would certainly help this yesr, it's just he's not the mythical Chara Replacement we hear all the time. By the way, the Bruins already have the Chara Replacement on the roster and his name is McAvoy. What they will need to find in the next 2 years is a solid #2 LD to compliment McAvoy. Maybe that's Zboril or Lauzon or Lindgren or Vaak. Or even Grez. Maybe he comes from outside the org.

 

[Dizzay]

I have been reading everyone's posts the last 3-4 weeks, literally almost as they come in and even though there's been some condescending replies, there's been a lot of truths told. At the end of the day here is why I believe we should be scared rolling with our current roster and not making any moves come deadline day:
1) If our #1 line gets shutdown, I fear our 2nd and 3rd won't be able to pick up the slack, come playoffs, when scoring goals traditionally are harder to come by. One, Krejci is centering two less than stellar defensive forwards and Riley Nash lacks anything remotely close to offensive flare.
2) Injuries- Krejci has been a crutch the last few seasons. Not calling him soft, but he's had his problems. Now I'm ok with Spooner/Backes sliding into the 2LC role but that presents a problem of who's next to step in? Bjork? Celharik? Donato? That's scary.
3) Jam- our top two lines are highly skilled but I think the player with the most jam is Bergy of all 6. Debrusk will be but he's not there yet. The bottom 2 lines can bang but we sure could use a big bodied scorer on that 2nd line.
4) Defense- Look no further than last year's playoffs. Add a top 4........McDonagh is the guy
5) Quaider has been often injured, Gryz is largely unproven.
6) We can spread out the minutes better and not be so dependent on Chara/McAvoy. Chara is 40, can't expect him to be on the ice to kill off full 5min pk's much longer.

McDonagh+Kreider is my dream fit.

 

[chizzler]

I’m not against bringing in someone with size as long as they have skill, and no one on Edmonton jumps out at me. There’s also a question of if they’ll fit. Remember Lucic’s last year here? He and Krejci lost their magic and Lucic found his game again with Spooner and Pastrnak. I’m not sure Krejci can turn a slow skating winger with size into a weapon like he could in his prime.

You give Krejci a slow winger, he reverts back to slow Krejci. Right now, I see a jump in his step. Don’t want to see the previous version.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

McCormick has produced at a minor league level, is a very good skater and, yup, he can and will fight. He hits as much as Noel Acciari but is more consistent physically, Acciari can be a physical force but not every game. Love Tyler Randell back and Calgary can leave Hathaway here after tomorrows game as well.

Sorry I'm not on board with the NHL/European/College hybrid the game has become and still want some toughness on the team.

You'd love a guy back who can barely skate and is a 4th line AHLer because he can fight?

 

[bp13]

McCormick has produced at a minor league level, is a very good skater and, yup, he can and will fight. He hits as much as Noel Acciari but is more consistent physically, Acciari can be a physical force but not every game. Love Tyler Randell back and Calgary can leave Hathaway here after tomorrows game as well.

Sorry I'm not on board with the NHL/European/College hybrid the game has become and still want some toughness on the team.

I like toughness too, but the guy can't suck. And you absolutely don't add a guy for fighting in preparation for the playoffs when you see next to no fighting going on. No thanks on a guy who can't crack the Sens lineup. Last I checked the Bruins were a top 3 team in the NHL...don't think a key objective should be subtracting speed or skill to add an AHL quality player who can fight but will never have to.

 

[bp13]

McCormick has produced at a minor league level, is a very good skater and, yup, he can and will fight. He hits as much as Noel Acciari but is more consistent physically, Acciari can be a physical force but not every game. Love Tyler Randell back and Calgary can leave Hathaway here after tomorrows game as well.

Sorry I'm not on board with the NHL/European/College hybrid the game has become and still want some toughness on the team.

I like toughness too, but the guy can't suck. And you absolutely don't add a guy for fighting in preparation for the playoffs when you see next to no fighting going on. How about addressing secondary scoring or upgrading the top 4 on D? Those are less lofty goals than a guy who sucks but fights a little?

 

[22Brad Park]

when all is said and done, unless an injury occurs in the next few weeks (knock on wood it doesn`t) my gut tells me Sweeney stands pat and rolls with what he has and while it won`t make for a ton of excitement here, I`ll be ok with it

I do not like idea standing pat.Bruins still have like 9 sets of 3 games in 4 days coming in month and half right before playoffs.Cannot see them avoiding getting nicked up.ThankYou NHL

 

[Fenian24]

Randell is the only guy I mentioned who can't play. If Czarnik and Acciari can take roster spots Kassian, McCormick and Hathaway can take one of theirs. McCormick and Hathaway are younger tweener players just like Acciari and Czarnik. Please tell me what Frank Vatrano has brought to this team that one of those players couldn't replace and bring in a physical style. Vatrano has 2 points in 25 games and is a minus player, The great Austin Czarnik has 4 points in 10 games and is a minus player, Acciari at least has 6 goals in 33 games to go along with his minus. Any one of them could be replaced by a tougher player who would produce similar numbers and contribute as much.

 

[TCB]

I have been reading everyone's posts the last 3-4 weeks, literally almost as they come in and even though there's been some condescending replies, there's been a lot of truths told. At the end of the day here is why I believe we should be scared rolling with our current roster and not making any moves come deadline day:
1) If our #1 line gets shutdown, I fear our 2nd and 3rd won't be able to pick up the slack, come playoffs, when scoring goals traditionally are harder to come by. One, Krejci is centering two less than stellar defensive forwards and Riley Nash lacks anything remotely close to offensive flare.
2) Injuries- Krejci has been a crutch the last few seasons. Not calling him soft, but he's had his problems. Now I'm ok with Spooner/Backes sliding into the 2LC role but that presents a problem of who's next to step in? Bjork? Celharik? Donato? That's scary.
3) Jam- our top two lines are highly skilled but I think the player with the most jam is Bergy of all 6. Debrusk will be but he's not there yet. The bottom 2 lines can bang but we sure could use a big bodied scorer on that 2nd line.
4) Defense- Look no further than last year's playoffs. Add a top 4........McDonagh is the guy
5) Quaider has been often injured, Gryz is largely unproven.
6) We can spread out the minutes better and not be so dependent on Chara/McAvoy. Chara is 40, can't expect him to be on the ice to kill off full 5min pk's much longer.

McDonagh+Kreider is my dream fit.

You make some good points!

The playoffs are a total different animal and secondary scoring is a must. Maybe Debrusk or Heinen will fill that gap but yes I agree it would be nice to find another top 6 forward at the deadline. I don't have much faith in Spooner as far as being a big playoff contributor. Case and point the 2011 cup champs were led in scoring by Krejci he actually led the Bruins in playoff scoring twice.

The Bruins have one of if not the top line in Hockey, finding another sniper would go a long way in helping the Bruins win another cup!

McDonagh & Kreider would be sweet and would be worth giving up some prospects/picks for. The only problem with acquiring both, some major salary would have to go back the other way. Which I don't see Happening.

If I had too choose between the two. I'd take McDonagh. He's a shutdown defenseman who can turn defense into offense in an instance with his skating and passing. But I'd take either one!

 

[bearcountry17]

He is a lug.......

A lug that produces like a top 6 guy in the playoffs...

 

[22Brad Park]

You make some good points!

The playoffs are a total different animal and secondary scoring is a must. Maybe Debrusk or Heinen will fill that gap but yes I agree it would be nice to find another top 6 forward at the deadline. I don't have much faith in Spooner as far as being a big playoff contributor. Case and point the 2011 cup champs were led in scoring by Krejci he actually led the Bruins in playoff scoring twice.

The Bruins have one of if not the top line in Hockey, finding another sniper would go a long way in helping the Bruins win another cup!

McDonagh & Kreider would be sweet and would be worth giving up some prospects/picks for. The only problem with acquiring both, some major salary would have to go back the other way. Which I don't see Happening.

If I had too choose between the two. I'd take McDonagh. He's a shutdown defenseman who can turn defense into offense in an instance with his skating and passing. But I'd take either one!

The post Dom put up killed my dream with some harsh truth

 

[sleepyh]

Is Maroon that bad? Every time I see him he is potting goals against the Bruins. Guess I don't see him enough..

 

[Glove Malfunction]

Randell is the only guy I mentioned who can't play. If Czarnik and Acciari can take roster spots Kassian, McCormick and Hathaway can take one of theirs. McCormick and Hathaway are younger tweener players just like Acciari and Czarnik. Please tell me what Frank Vatrano has brought to this team that one of those players couldn't replace and bring in a physical style. Vatrano has 2 points in 25 games and is a minus player, The great Austin Czarnik has 4 points in 10 games and is a minus player, Acciari at least has 6 goals in 33 games to go along with his minus. Any one of them could be replaced by a tougher player who would produce similar numbers and contribute as much.

Bringing in one of those guys you named might in fact replace Vatrano. And like Vatrano, they would also likely spend most of their time on the 9th floor. No thanks.

 

[Glove Malfunction]

Patrick Maroon is not a bad player. But does he make the Bruins appreciably better?

 

[veganbruin]

i just like the idea of picking up a rental winger for depth that may not even beat out other players in the lineup for now and then when the injury bug hits we have insurance. If he gets cold platoon him with a rookie down the stretch.

 

[wintersej]

I’m not against bringing in someone with size as long as they have skill, and no one on Edmonton jumps out at me. There’s also a question of if they’ll fit. Remember Lucic’s last year here? He and Krejci lost their magic and Lucic found his game again with Spooner and Pastrnak. I’m not sure Krejci can turn a slow skating winger with size into a weapon like he could in his prime.

I'm not so sure its Krejci changing but the speed of the game. It could go either two ways with Krejci with two big wingers. (1) They knock the shit out of little PMDs and own the puck in the offensive zone or (2) they never get to the puck because they are chasing the play.