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Confirmed with Link: Brian Boyle to NJD. 2 year Deal

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ForeverJerseyGirl said:
I am saying Brian Boyle is also an irrelevant forward who we will probably want off our team after seeing him play for a year.
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Yup.

And we won't be able to move him because of the 2nd year we gave him and nobody will want on their books at 2.55
 
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Boyle is one of the best 4th line centers in the NHL. We had a need for a bottom 6 center.

This is just complaining just to complain. Not surprised, though.
 

devilsblood

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On a day when the hope was to land a #1 D, but the best we could come up with was Brian Boyle?

Let the debate about ownerships willingness to spend resume.
 
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Boyle, Zajac, Greene - long careers, pretty consistent players night-to-night.

I get the signing. I don't think it was necessary, but I get it. When we're being smoked 6-2 in the second period, someone has to push back and Zajac/Greene are not those types.
 
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devilsblood said:
On a day when the hope was to land a #1 D, but the best we could come up with was Brian Boyle?

Let the debate about ownerships willingness to spend resume.
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uh what?

there was no #1 DMan available today.

and the best one was going to sign with the Rangers no matter what. The contract he took proves that.
 

captainscott

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uh what?

there was no #1 DMan available today.

and the best one was going to sign with the Rangers no matter what. The contract he took proves that.
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seriously.... people think if shattenkirk was a true #1 D some other good organizations that he would have wanted to play for didn't offer up? he wanted to play for the rangers its that simple....

I am surprised people are all of a sudden calling this off season a failure because we didn't land shatt. I'm sure shero made an offer.. it didn't work out.. oh well. we still added #1 and #4 center in the last week... we still have the potential for a kovalchuck trade... and some other free agents... etc. lets see how it play out
 
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captainscott said:
seriously.... people think if shattenkirk was a true #1 D some other good organizations that he would have wanted to play for didn't offer up? he wanted to play for the rangers its that simple....

I am surprised people are all of a sudden calling this off season a failure because we didn't land shatt. I'm sure shero made an offer.. it didn't work out.. oh well. we still added #1 and #4 center in the last week... we still have the potential for a kovalchuck trade... and some other free agents... etc. lets see how it play out
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We did make an offer. They didn't want to go to 6 years and he wasn't taking less to play here.
 

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captainscott said:
seriously.... people think if shattenkirk was a true #1 D some other good organizations that he would have wanted to play for didn't offer up? he wanted to play for the rangers its that simple....

I am surprised people are all of a sudden calling this off season a failure because we didn't land shatt. I'm sure shero made an offer.. it didn't work out.. oh well. we still added #1 and #4 center in the last week... we still have the potential for a kovalchuck trade... and some other free agents... etc. lets see how it play out
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There is a difference between the frustation you are responding to and those who think this offseason is a failure.
 

devilsblood

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We did make an offer. They didn't want to go to 6 years and he wasn't taking less to play here.
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Which is a debate in itself.

My argument prior to today was a reluctance to go long term, while some who wanted big $$ for 7 years are now acting as if this was the smart move all along.
 

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ForeverJerseyGirl said:
Indeed. It's not the end of the world, but it is a very meh move.
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I don't think anyone is arguing that it is the missing piece.. i think the people that like it are having an easier time recognizing that this group doesn't have and has not had much leadership in recent years...and this is a guy that can potentially fill that intangible void.. for a sort of low end signing i really like this one.. yes it is underwhelming when compared to shattenkirk but it doesn't make it a non consequential move..
 

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Boyle is a vet presence, something we sorely lack amongst our fwd's. But a 33 yr old 4th liner was brought in to be a leader? I'm not buying in to that narrative.
 
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devilsblood said:
On a day when the hope was to land a #1 D, but the best we could come up with was Brian Boyle?

Let the debate about ownerships willingness to spend resume.
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How does ownership have anything to do with this? Unless you think we just gave Shatty a token he'll never take this offer to make it look like we're doing something.
 

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devilsblood said:
Boyle is a vet presence, something we sorely lack amongst our fwd's. But a 33 yr old 4th liner was brought in to be a leader? I'm not buying in to that narrative.
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not saying they are anointing him captain.. but yes he can have a leadership role on this team... you don't have to be on the first line to be an effective leader.. not discounting what you say but i don't think his ice time really matters in this instance... he will play 8-10 mins per night and kill penalties.. he can lead
 
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captainscott said:
not saying they are anointing him captain.. but yes he can have a leadership role on this team... you don't have to be on the first line to be an effective leader.. not discounting what you say but i don't think his ice time really matters in this instance... he will play 8-10 mins per night and kill penalties.. he can lead
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Why I wouldn't mind a year of Jagr. He can't keep up on the ice, but it would be worth it to get the kids on board with his crazy workout regiment.
 
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devilsblood said:
Which is a debate in itself.

My argument prior to today was a reluctance to go long term, while some who wanted big $$ for 7 years are now acting as if this was the smart move all along.
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I think no one wanted 7x7, it was preferable either he get offered term OR salary.

Also what is the argument for why people hate Boyle? Other than 2 years at 2.55M, because, you know, we know exactly how he will be as a player in his 2 years with us
 

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OmNomNom said:
I think no one wanted 7x7, it was preferable either he get offered term OR salary.

Also what is the argument for why people hate Boyle? Other than 2 years at 2.55M, because, you know, we know exactly how he will be as a player in his 2 years with us
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i would say there is no way the devils didn't at least match shattenkirks existing offer.. so i don't think people can lay blame on front office here.. i cannot imagine the rangers made the best offer.
 
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captainscott said:
i would say there is no way the devils didn't at least match shattenkirks existing offer.. so i don't think people can lay blame on front office here.. i cannot imagine the rangers made the best offer.
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I'll give gorton credit, he cut a great deal with shattenkirk. Low cap hit, low term. If he's junk, he'll be cut soon enough. If the team is junk, he can bolt after 4 years as well, or the rags will be able to deal his contract easily.
 
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