Player Discussion Brandon Pirri

[YoSoyLalo]

He could very well be a forward version of MAB, and I don't mind that. I think he's getting underrated in this thread though. He has his flaws but put him in the right spot with the right players in the top-9 and he could be VERY valuable. Honestly, him next to Stepan-Nash, two players who could cover his defensive deficiencies and allow him space in the Ozone, could be a very good line.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

Not that I think Pirri is a 1st line winger or anything, but that he'd just mesh well with our best two forwards.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Not that I think Pirri is a 1st line winger or anything, but that he'd just mesh well with our best two forwards.

Looking at line-combinations, it just seems that way. Pirri needs players who can set him up. Stepan, Nash, Zuccarello... All have that passing instinct.

The 1st line is not always about putting the 3 best players together. We did that with Nash-Richards-Gaborik in 2013 and it did not work. I would look to what is needed. You need at least 1 guy who is solid defensively and 1 sniper. The 3rd can be either a playmaker or a power forward.

Kreider-Stepan-Pirri
Vesey-Zibanejad-Nash
Buchnevich-Hayes-Zuccarello
Miller-Lindberg-Zuccarello
Pirri-Zibanejad-Nash
Vesey-Hayes-Nash
Nash-Stepan-Buchnevich

All options where you spread the talent

 

[Metranger]

I hope he doesn't get the Stempniak treatment.

Management messed up letting him go.

He would have made a difference if he stayed.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Management messed up letting him go.

He would have made a difference if he stayed.

Hindsight is 20/20. It happens, but come on. Nobody expected Stempniak to be a 20-goal scorer. (He had 19, but close enough)

 

[Infinitum Vitae*]

Hindsight is 20/20. It happens, but come on. Nobody expected Stempniak to be a 20-goal scorer. (He had 19, but close enough)

In all fairness i don't expect pirri to be one either. I just hope after all this jerking around with FLA and the Ducks he works better on his 2 way game and turns into a complete player. One can hope

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

In all fairness i don't expect pirri to be one either. I just hope after all this jerking around with FLA and the Ducks he works better on his 2 way game and turns into a complete player. One can hope

Him not getting a QO, when his base salary was less than 1m, was actually a huge red flag to me. But we will see how it goes. I guess this is our annual reclamation project at a reduced price.

2011-12: Johnny Malkin (650k)
2012-13: Pyatt (1.5m)
2013-14: Pouliot (1.3m)
2014-15: Lee Stempniak (900k)
2015-16: Viktor Stalberg (1.1m)

 

[New York RKY]

Not that I think Pirri is a 1st line winger or anything, but that he'd just mesh well with our best two forwards.

What are you talking about, I thought getting Pirri means that Nash, Zucc, Lundqvist, and McDonagh are now expendable.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

In all fairness i don't expect pirri to be one either. I just hope after all this jerking around with FLA and the Ducks he works better on his 2 way game and turns into a complete player. One can hope

There's more of a chance of me making the NHL, finally.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

He could very well be a forward version of MAB, and I don't mind that. I think he's getting underrated in this thread though. He has his flaws but put him in the right spot with the right players in the top-9 and he could be VERY valuable. Honestly, him next to Stepan-Nash, two players who could cover his defensive deficiencies and allow him space in the Ozone, could be a very good line.

He's not getting underrated at all. He's awful at hockey but has an elite shot. He's a one trick pony with a very good trick.

 

[Alluckks]

Miller, Kreider, and Vesey are all exclusively Left Wings. No room for Pirri on the left. He would have to be on the right.

Miller Stepan Pirri
Kreider Zib Zuc
Vesey Hayes Nash

If you want even distribution. Or we keep Pirri as the 13th to fill in for when people need off-days or a cheap short term replacement if someone like Nash goes down.

 

[Revel]

Miller, Kreider, and Vesey are all exclusively Left Wings. No room for Pirri on the left. He would have to be on the right.

Miller Stepan Pirri
Kreider Zib Zuc
Vesey Hayes Nash

If you want even distribution. Or we keep Pirri as the 13th to fill in for when people need off-days or a cheap short term replacement if someone like Nash goes down.

Miller also plays RW, and can play Center in a pinch.

 

[Irishguy42]

Miller, Kreider, and Vesey are all exclusively Left Wings. No room for Pirri on the left. He would have to be on the right.

Miller Stepan Pirri
Kreider Zib Zuc
Vesey Hayes Nash

If you want even distribution. Or we keep Pirri as the 13th to fill in for when people need off-days or a cheap short term replacement if someone like Nash goes down.

Huh? Since when did Miller exclusively play LW? He played RW for a good amount of time, if not most of the season.

 

[TheTakedown]

Looking at line-combinations, it just seems that way. Pirri needs players who can set him up. Stepan, Nash, Zuccarello... All have that passing instinct.

The 1st line is not always about putting the 3 best players together. We did that with Nash-Richards-Gaborik in 2013 and it did not work. I would look to what is needed. You need at least 1 guy who is solid defensively and 1 sniper. The 3rd can be either a playmaker or a power forward.

Kreider-Stepan-Pirri
Vesey-Zibanejad-Nash
Buchnevich-Hayes-Zuccarello
Miller-Lindberg-Zuccarello
Pirri-Zibanejad-Nash
Vesey-Hayes-Nash
Nash-Stepan-Buchnevich

All options where you spread the talent

I love the first 2 lines

 

[Ghost of jas]

Huh? Since when did Miller exclusively play LW? He played RW for a good amount of time, if not most of the season.

Miller played LW with Brass/Zucc and Brass/Fast.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Miller played LW with Brass/Zucc and Brass/Fast.

And he played on the RW when replacing Zuccarello with Nash and Brassard. He also played RW with Kreider and Stepan.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

For some reason it sticks in my head that Miller has said he prefers RW.

Regardless, he definitely plays all 3 forward positions.

 

[Ori]

https://www.nhl.com/player/brandon-pirri-8475204

Another solid Rangers signing - what not to like with a depth player like, Brandon Pirri?
It`ll be an exciting season for sure!

Pirri scores: https://www.nhl.com/video/pirri-buries-a-slap-shot/t-277443690/c-43101403

 

[Ori]

There has to be no room for Glass at this point.

It has to be the end of him.

AV have a glass poster under his pillow.

Him or the coah.

 

[Chief]

Not particularly. So far everything Gorton has done this offseason has been exceeding expectations. His hands were tied, and yet somehow he's made things happen.

Not sure what you consider dumpster diving, but the pickups the team has made are far from that. Unless you were rooting for the team to sign Stamkos, which wasn't realistic in any way, shape, or form.

The forwards are marginally better this year than last, it's not even an argument that could be made. The defense is worse, and I have been saying this since the offseason started, but if he can trade for a young Dman that will be on the team long term, the offseason was as good as it can be.

Girardi and Staal being moved this summer were pipe dreams and nothing more. Maybe next summer

I'm not bagging on Gorton. I know his hands were tied because of his RFA's. And I also know that teams are a work in progress and just because the team may seem incomplete at the end of August, that doesn't mean other moves won't happen during the season...but all that said, I find it hard to give Gorton a summer grade that's much more than average.

The Vesey signing was the stand-out move, one he had to be proactive about and make happen, as opposed to Buchnevich, who I'm not going to give him much credit for.

Brassard for Zibs came out of nowhere - and I have to say I really like Zibs - but trading Brassard for him isn't some no-brainer. Brassard was our highest scorer on the powerplay and also one of the few Rangers who elevated his play in the playoffs.

The bottom six signings don't wow me. Grabner, Gerbe, etc... could just as easily been Vermetter and Hudler and we might have been better off. I mean if Gorton was going to improve the team then maybe he should have started by addressing some of our biggest needs and found a center who could win faceoffs (see Vermette) and try and find some offense from the blueline. The Rangers lost a lot of points when Yandle walked (not to mention Boyle's 10 goals).

In the end, I'm not bent out of shape that all holes haven't been filled. I'm just calling the job Gorton did average to slightly above average.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

The Vesey signing was the stand-out move, one he had to be proactive about and make happen, as opposed to Buchnevich, who I'm not going to give him much credit for.

Not even for drafting him? I heard people Gorton was responsible for the drafting prior to being promoted to GM

 

[Boruto]

I hope Pirri can bring it double time and spice up our lineup.

 

[Avery16]

I'm not bagging on Gorton. I know his hands were tied because of his RFA's. And I also know that teams are a work in progress and just because the team may seem incomplete at the end of August, that doesn't mean other moves won't happen during the season...but all that said, I find it hard to give Gorton a summer grade that's much more than average.

The bottom six signings don't wow me. Grabner, Gerbe, etc... could just as easily been Vermetter and Hudler and we might have been better off. I mean if Gorton was going to improve the team then maybe he should have started by addressing some of our biggest needs and found a center who could win faceoffs (see Vermette) and try and find some offense from the blueline. The Rangers lost a lot of points when Yandle walked (not to mention Boyle's 10 goals).

In the end, I'm not bent out of shape that all holes haven't been filled. I'm just calling the job Gorton did average to slightly above average.

Gerbe currently penciled as a #13 or Hartford. Grabner won't be spending much time off the 4th line. I don't think Hudler or Vermette would have signed on for that. Our third line (Vesey/Hayes/Buchnevich) might be one of the more exciting things to watch this season. Im glad it isn't a hodgepodge of vet signings. That feels too much like the late 90s teams.

 

[TheTakedown]

For some reason it sticks in my head that Miller has said he prefers RW.

Regardless, he definitely plays all 3 forward positions.

I recall this as well

 

[TheDirtyH]

Miller played LW with Brass/Zucc and Brass/Fast.

Miller has stated he prefers RW.