GDT: Blackhawks @ Coyotes 10/30/23 9pm Nbc sports chicago

[Hawkaholic]

You just love to argue huh. I believe that Seth Jones is playing a high level right now. You do not have to believe the same thing. We can move on.

It's ok to be wrong.

 

[giza]

Jones will never come close to living up to his contract, but why beat a dead horse. I haven't watched him as specifically as some, but he seems to flub the puck more than I would expect. I would say Vlasic has been the best defensive D man to this point---his combination of reach and mobility has been impressive.....and the Phoenix game and his absence might have showcased how important he's been to the overall team D.

 

[BHawk21]

It's ok to be wrong.

Move onto your next message board argument lol

 

[Hawkaholic]

Move onto your next message board argument lol

Most people argue about something on msg boards. Welcome to msg boards.

 

[Chelios]

Seth Jones is low on the list of our issues right now. I didn't see the last game, so maybe he had a rough game then, but up until then he has been very good this season all things considered.

 

[Giovi]

Yup, Jones is pretty far down the list of problems for the Hawks right now.

 

[Hawkaholic]

I don't think anyone is saying he is a problem right now.

 

[Pez68]

Fun fact: four years ago you wanted to trade Debrincat and the #3oa for Subban.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! OMG, how did I forget about that?

 

[ChiHawks10]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! OMG, how did I forget about that?

Because he has so many bad takes it's hard to keep track of them all.

 

[Chelios]

I don't think anyone is saying he is a problem right now.

It seems like every game thread, especially losses, are littered with people complaining with Seth Jones

 

[BobbyJet]

lol, no. His contract is what gauges what he should be doing on the ice.

4pts, 0Gs, for a guy that hasn't been amazing defensively is not a top pairing Dman.

How many f***ing times do we have to go over this. Seth's contract is the work of Stan, the guy most people liked around here until they finally admitted they were wrong (not in so many words). Of course Jones would never turn it down because it was for too much money and for too long. Seth will never live up to that contract so quit mentioning it as point of argument. His signing is water under the bridge and there is no changing what was done years ago. Now quit arguing a point almost everyone here has acknowledged.

 

[Hockeyman1962]

It seems like every game thread, especially losses, are littered with people complaining with Seth Jones

the whole team is bad no continuity period pp sucks and i for one have heard my fill about conner bedard if your banking on a 18 year old rookie then blackhawks are in major trouble this year

 

[Pez68]

the whole team is bad no continuity period pp sucks and i for one have heard my fill about conner bedard if your banking on a 18 year old rookie then blackhawks are in major trouble this year

You just figured out they won't be good? Like, you didn't realize....they weren't trying to be good?

 

[BobbyJet]

You just figured out they won't be good? Like, you didn't realize....they weren't trying to be good?

Must you be so condescending or criticizing in every post? Try talking hockey, that you know so well.

Fact is, with a few exceptions (because of inexperience), Hawks are probably playing their best available players at the moment. If they are genuinely tanking, it comes from the GM and from front office decisions. It has nothing to do with Luke or the players effort on the ice.

Luke is obviously trying to stress hard work - a 200 foot game from his forwards and is being patient with his young Dmen. Most nights the team is competitive but the chances of even a sniff of a PO spot is probably a dream at this point. Thankfully, Bedard makes games watchable at times.

 

[Hawkaholic]

How many f***ing times do we have to go over this. Seth's contract is the work of Stan, the guy most people liked around here until they finally admitted they were wrong (not in so many words). Of course Jones would never turn it down because it was for too much money and for too long. Seth will never live up to that contract so quit mentioning it as point of argument. His signing is water under the bridge and there is no changing what was done years ago. Now quit arguing a point almost everyone here has acknowledged.

When people are talking as if he is playing great when he really isn't, it then get to a discussion about his contract, and it's relevant. It doesn't matter who gave it to him, he hasnt earned it and should be criticized, that's sports.

 

[BobbyJet]

When people are talking as if he is playing great when he really isn't, it then get to a discussion about his contract, and it's relevant. It doesn't matter who gave it to him, he hasnt earned it and should be criticized, that's sports.

Agreed.... but do you really thing he has been bad?

 

[Hawkaholic]

Agreed.... but do you really thing he has been bad?

Relative to his contract, yes. If hes expected to be a bottom of the barrel #2D man/great #3 I would consider his play sufficient. That's not good enough though, for me.

 

[Darkstar]

the whole team is bad no continuity period pp sucks and i for one have heard my fill about conner bedard if your banking on a 18 year old rookie then blackhawks are in major trouble this year

If you're expecting to fight for a playoff spot then yeah, we're in trouble. If you understand that we're still in rebuilding mode and most likely will be drafting very high again, then we're right where we are supposed to be. This team is still missing multiple pieces that you can call a core to build around.