CBC Hot Stove: Avalanche the favorites for Taylor Hall, trade may even happen before Christmas

[Warden of the North]

Sorry but that is crazy.

1st + Byram is completely nuts for a rental. If Sakic does that, he will ruin with one move almost everything he has done recently...

Then I doubt I it happens soon.

Devils would be silly to not hold on to him for a better package.

 

[Puckstop40]

As much as I would love to have Hall, he is not really an absolute need. I’d prefer to get healthy and keep our assets.

 

[Forge]

I dont see why the Devils would trade him for a subpar return. I would say your 1st+ best prospect is a given.

Not all prospects are created equal. That would be a given for some teams, but not all teams. Trading with Calgary and their "best prospect" (talking those not in the NHL currently) is not the same as trading with Colorado with their best prospect.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

I think if there's any truth to the 4 pieces it will be Jost/Newhook + Bowers + 2020 2nd + conditional 2021 2nd (on him re-signing).

 

[JoemAvs]

Then I doubt I it happens soon.

Devils would be silly to not hold on to him for a better package.

I don't think you are quite up to speed with what is going on..
Avs shouldn't trade any of their top3 prospects and probably still have a very good chance of offering the best package.

I unfortunately doubt that they will keep all 3 considering how quickly this seems to be picking up speed but Sakic would have to completely lose his mind to include the guy he just picked 4th overall for a rental...

 

[NJ DevLolz]

As long as the package include Timmins and the Avs' first, I have no problem with it

 

[sens13]

Then I doubt I it happens soon.

Devils would be silly to not hold on to him for a better package.

when's the last time a rental got a prospect like byram?

Show me one example.

 

[NJ DevLolz]

I think if there's any truth to the 4 pieces it will be Jost/Newhook + Bowers + 2020 2nd + conditional 2021 2nd (on him re-signing).

Unless it's Newhook, there isnt one good piece in there

 

[AMDZen]

2nd + Jost + Bowers, anything more than that and they can keep him.

This

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I dont see why the Devils would trade him for a subpar return. I would say your 1st+ best prospect is a given.

When was the last time a UFA Rental was traded for a teams top prospect? Let alone a 1st on top of that prospect



Basically 100% of the time when you're looking at the rental market for higher end rentals, you're looking at a 1st round pick + a teams ~5th or 6th best prospect.

Now Hall also isn't quite your typical rental either as he is an elite player and not too long ago a Hart trophy winner so he probably gets a tad more than what that typical return is.... But that's also where instead of getting just a couple of assets, it looks like New Jersey is looking to get a basket of solid assets instead, similar to the Avs approach when they dealt Duchene a few years back.


Young Roster player + 1st + B Prospect + B Prospect


That's the type of return it will be. With the young roster player IMO being set up very likely to be Tyson Jost as he really just doesn't have much of a defined role for the Avs anymore.

 

[Asinine]

Jost
Timmins
2nd
Conditional 2020 first if re-signed.

That's the best offer i'd make if I were Sakic.

Edit: and that's only because I want Jost off this team more than I want Hall on it.

 

[Rosy Cheeks]

If Timmins is included you might have to wait and check him out in an Avs uniform first. We got our top two RD injured as of today. It is possible he gets called up.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

4 pieces makes it sound like a quantity trade.

Jost
Kaut/Bowers/Helleson/Kamenev
1st
Conditional 1st if re-signed

 

[Jixer19]

From this Avs fan perspective, all I hope for is it to not include Byram/Newhook, I would love to keep Timmins, but I understand NJ wants a dman, so if it is between Timmins and say big Z, well good luck Timmins. With that in mind, wonder if Sakic would ask to speak to Hall's agent before the trade, see if he will take a discount on a new contract to play in Denver, because at 10M/yr that is rumoured, I would hope Sakic passes on that.

With that in mind, I don't think we need Hall, but for the right price I will welcome him to the Avs for sure.

1st 2020
Timmins
Jost
Kaut or Bowers

Maybe some conditional pick if he signs in Denver also

 

[CB Joe]

1st, cond. 1st, Kaut, Kamenev.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

Unless it's Newhook, there isnt one good piece in there

He's a 28 year old expiring UFA on a team that has no chance of signing him. You're not going to get a stellar return my man.

 

[missionAvs]

I dont see why the Devils would trade him for a subpar return. I would say your 1st+ best prospect is a given.

1st + Byram? That would piss me off haha.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

1st
Newhook
Timmins
3rd

For

Hall
McLeod

 

[Mighty Makar]

1st
Newhook
Timmins
3rd

For

Hall
McLeod

Lol. The Avs have no use for McLeod, sorry.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

This would be great for the Avs. Hall is one of those guys that drives play to such an elite degree that he can essentially carry his own line. I’m pretty sure he’ll be in Denver for awhile, and will be worth every penny.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

1st
Newhook
Timmins
3rd

For

Hall
McLeod

You're not getting a 1st, Newhook, and Timmins in one package. You might get Timmins and a 3rd, or Newhook, Bowers, and 2 2nds, but you're not getting all 3.

 

[AMDZen]

1st + Byram? That would piss me off haha.

There's no way that happens. Especially if the 4 piece package is accurate

Byram by himself would be overpayment, much less including 3 other pieces

 

[crowi]

If they give up Byram for Hall, I'm gonna feel bad.

I also don't think that will happen.

 

[My3Sons]

when's the last time a rental got a prospect like byram?

Show me one example.

Ben Lovejoy returned a pick AND Conner “ Bobby Orr” Carrick!!

 

[supsens]

When was the last time a UFA Rental was traded for a teams top prospect? Let alone a 1st on top of that prospect



Basically 100% of the time when you're looking at the rental market for higher end rentals, you're looking at a 1st round pick + a teams ~5th or 6th best prospect.

Now Hall also isn't quite your typical rental either as he is an elite player and not too long ago a Hart trophy winner so he probably gets a tad more than what that typical return is.... But that's also where instead of getting just a couple of assets, it looks like New Jersey is looking to get a basket of solid assets instead, similar to the Avs approach when they dealt Duchene a few years back.


Young Roster player + 1st + B Prospect + B Prospect


That's the type of return it will be. With the young roster player IMO being set up very likely to be Tyson Jost as he really just doesn't have much of a defined role for the Avs anymore.

Ya I would assume they want a winger that can play in the NHL a prospect and 2 picks