I like both those players but I don't think losing Monahan, to aquire either of them, makes us a better team or would be considered good asset management. If I'm eyeing up these guys, I'm thinking Zad + a couple 2nds, pushing Pitlick down the lineup and inserting Valimaki. Retaining on Monahan, with one year remaining during the offseason, is the best way to get peak value out of him.
Speculation: Armchair GM Thread 2021-22 VI (the one where we ALMOST got Eichel)
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TheHudlinator
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If we are keeping Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Mangiapane, Kylington long term we can't afford Monahan imo. Moving him for a cheaper right handed RWer that fits the age make up of the team I think it does make us better over the next few years.
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I rarely ever make trade proposals but...
Jim Benning has the go ahead to make some serious changes to the roster and culture of his club..
What about a trade of Matthew Tkachuk for Elias Pettersson? Fair? Ridiculous? Would never happen? What do you think?
Edit: Assuming that Tkachuk can come to an agreement (with either the Flames or Canucks) before the trade on a long term contract extension in the $9-10M AAV range.
Jim Benning has the go ahead to make some serious changes to the roster and culture of his club..
What about a trade of Matthew Tkachuk for Elias Pettersson? Fair? Ridiculous? Would never happen? What do you think?
Edit: Assuming that Tkachuk can come to an agreement (with either the Flames or Canucks) before the trade on a long term contract extension in the $9-10M AAV range.
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interesting for sure.
I don’t think there will be a lot of interest in Tkachuk unless he’s willing to sign like Jones. Jordan Kyrou is who I would target but who knows.
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And I don't disagree with that. If Mangi and Kylington's play continues, it'll make it really tough to sign all 4, even without Monahan. What I'm saying is that you still have to maximize his value and thats retained, in the offseason, with one year remaining.
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To have an elite center like Pettersson for 82 games a year... I'd do it.
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I might not have been on board with Eichel, but Petterson? Sign me up, even at the cost of Chucky. It can only be good for the rivalry playing against former teammates.
Johnny - Petey - Mangi
Dube - Mony - Lindy
Coleman - Backlund - Pitlick
Looch - Gawdin - Duehr
That's a lineup I can eff with.
Johnny - Petey - Mangi
Dube - Mony - Lindy
Coleman - Backlund - Pitlick
Looch - Gawdin - Duehr
That's a lineup I can eff with.
Canucks aren't trading Pettersson to the Flames and the Flames arent trading Tkachuk to Vancouver
Just why????
Honest question. Who is he replacing? The 25 year old? The other 24 year old? Or maybe the 23 year old?
Why would we do this??
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I don't see the Flames having the balls to make that trade but combine it with a couple of other moves and you've got one of the best rosters in the league.
Offer Monahan for a high compete level RW, maybe even Forsberg himself could be had considering his expiring contract status (but you have to have a plan in place to re-sign)
Callup Pellettier, Phillips, and one of Ruzicka or Zary (depending on genuine merit of course)
Sign Coronato
Gaudreau - Pettersson - Forsberg
Mangiapane - Lindholm - Coronato
Pellettier/Dube - Backlund - Coleman
Lucic - Dube/Ruzicka/Zary - Phillips
Dube plays wherever one of the rookies underperforms, of course.
you can keep Trevor Lewis around because Veteranz
Offer Monahan for a high compete level RW, maybe even Forsberg himself could be had considering his expiring contract status (but you have to have a plan in place to re-sign)
Callup Pellettier, Phillips, and one of Ruzicka or Zary (depending on genuine merit of course)
Sign Coronato
Gaudreau - Pettersson - Forsberg
Mangiapane - Lindholm - Coronato
Pellettier/Dube - Backlund - Coleman
Lucic - Dube/Ruzicka/Zary - Phillips
Dube plays wherever one of the rookies underperforms, of course.
you can keep Trevor Lewis around because Veteranz
I wonder what Seattle is prepared to do. I thought they took wrong approach but in the end it looks like they will be in the Wright sweepstakes anyways. They should of took some high salaried vets and youngster players like Kylington and build through the '21-23 drafts.
Soo if they decide to go that route I see lots of options especially up front for us. I wonder if we could make a move for both Eberle and Gourde in a package? Thinking Monohan, Valimaki and our two 2nds could be bandied about.
Soo if they decide to go that route I see lots of options especially up front for us. I wonder if we could make a move for both Eberle and Gourde in a package? Thinking Monohan, Valimaki and our two 2nds could be bandied about.
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How much more do you honestly think we can get with a flat cap and monahan isn't looking like the 30 goal scorer anymore.
Quite a bit actually, 1st +, with retained salary. I find it quite amusing that the same people like to scream mismanagement with Bennett, but are so quick to call Monahan a bum in the same situation. If anything, Monahan's PP production has shown that he can still produce with top end talent. He isn't a play driver but can still put it home when it counts. Brett Hull made a career out of it. Honestly, I think it would have to be a career year and a perfect fit for either of Toffoli or Brown to ever return a 1st.
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Who's calling him a bum? I'm literally one of the most vocal Monahan supporters here. I'm willing to bet almost anything Calgary is not trading Monahan for futures and not retaining any salary. Depending on the 1st I'd argue toffoli or Brown are worth more
Tkachuk is being driven to the airport by me and somebody else in this thread if that trade is offered up.
Top line winger<<<Top line centre
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Because literally everything 93 brought was something you want more of, 20+ minutes a night of it pulling guys like Gaudreau up with his skillset rather than needing Gaudreau to pull him up.
Everything 23 brings starts and ends with a binary "did he score?".
Scoring alone is not enough, that's why the Jets traded Laine for Dubois, and it's why Jonathan Toews, Anze Kopitar, Patrice Bergeron, Ryan O'Rielly, Nick Backstrom, and Sidney Crosby accounted for 10 out of 10 cups in the 2010s, and Brayden Point is 2-for-2 in the 2020s. Great centres do it all. Sam Bennett does it all. Even with Barkov injured he's putting the Panthers in the driver's seat with his allaround game.
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not to argue your point but Barkov has been injured for 1 game lol
They are not going far without him
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Lmao I wouldn't go so far as to say he's terrible, but it's not like he's a top-line guy, either.
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