Sportsnet: Arizona have received an offer matching their asking price for Jakob Chychrun.

[Mase]

Chychrun would definitely sign after his current contract and may find another gear beyond last year in Florida. I think Zito stacks up other value in the deal and refuses to put Lundell in.

I certainly hope you're correct

 

[Smitty426]

It would be incredibly ballsy to trade their first, but I wonder if the Devils get involved here.

Devils could put something like Zacha + Smith + 2021 first (top 5 or lottery protected) on the table pretty easily. I wouldn't completely rule out including Holtz or Mukhmadullin either.

A defense of Chychrun - Hamilton; Siegenthaler - Severson; Graves going into next season would be solid. Chychrun - Hamilton long term for 13.6 million total could be a solid top pairing.

THERE YOU GO!

 

[Dread Clawz]

Tippett+Samoskevich+Smilanic+2023 1st+2023 2nd? Would that get it done?

 

[BKarchitect]

Tippett+Samoskevich+Smilanic+2023 1st+2023 2nd? Would that get it done?

I think the centerpiece has to be a center or defenseman. I know Smilanic is a center and a solid prospect but he’s an add on in this package.

 

[amnesiac]

christ, youd think Chychrun won 2 Norrises seeing what people would give up for him.... The guy is having an absolutely awful season.

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

DeBrusk, Vaak, 1st?

 

[Dread Clawz]

I think the centerpiece has to be a center or defenseman. I know Smilanic is a center and a solid prospect but he’s an add on in this package.

Then he won't be going to the Panthers, the only center they have like that is Lundell.

 

[Soundgarden]

christ, youd think Chychrun won 2 Norrises seeing what people would give up for him.... The guy is having an absolutely awful season.

On an almost historically bad team. He's a 23 year old top pairing defenseman making only 4.6M a year, put him on a team with a foundation and a system in place and a good locker room and a healthy atmosphere and I bet he suddenly starts to look a lot less awful.

 

[BKarchitect]

People are really stretching the concept of what the offer construct was. Anybody can include a couple of former disappointing firsts who are now 24 years old and their own late 20’s overall pick and say they’ve “met the guidelines”.

I don’t believe that is the genuine message of what is being portrayed here and honestly - whether or not you think Chychrun is overrated at this point - I absolutely believe the haul is going to stun people who think he’s going to be had for anything less than a package that will make fans of the other team cry a bit. And I absolutely think on a good team Chychrun is going to look like a freaking beast.

The Coyotes still suck obviously but Armstrong has shown that he’s going to extract real value in deals for his core players. A 23 year-old top pairing defender is not being traded because he doesn’t fit the timeline or is too expensive or has demanded out - he’s being traded because he’s trade value is immense and Armstrong is aware of this.

 

[Petey But Really Jim]

Yeah that would be interesting, his dad analyzing him in between periods.

I laughed at this for all the wrong reasons.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Kostin, Brown, and a first from STL (yes I know this isn't enough)

 

[HoseEmDown]

If you can get Lundell or Knight from Florida you go with that offer even if the 1st will be in 23 and late. If they aren't on the table I don't see how Florida gets it done.

If Columbus offered Chicago/Columbus 22 1st, whichever is later, + Ceulemans + Foudy I think I would take that. I would try to pry Chinakhov instead of Foudy but I don't know if they would pry with him. I would assume Sillinger and Johnson would be off limits if the pick was top 10.

 

[Desert Panther]

I’d bet they are. Panthers feel that they can win it all this season, which they should. They have a very strong team

Yup... I'm betting it's Tippett, Denisenko and the '23 1st.

 

[Ace]

On an almost historically bad team. He's a 23 year old top pairing defenseman making only 4.6M a year, put him on a team with a foundation and a system in place and a good locker room and a healthy atmosphere and I bet he suddenly starts to look a lot less awful.

I’m having 8 years of Ristolainen flashbacks

 

[BKarchitect]

Yup... I'm betting it's Tippett, Denisenko and the '23 1st.

I’m betting the Coyotes aren’t trading their centerpiece defenseman for two pure wingers, especially not when their recent top 10 pick is a winger and their top AHL prospect is a winger.

 

[Desert Panther]

I’m betting the Coyotes aren’t trading their centerpiece defenseman for two pure wingers, especially not when their recent top 10 pick is a winger and their top AHL prospect is a winger.

You might be right. But no way Zito includes either Lundell or Knight in any deal. If AZ insists on either of them, there's no deal.

 

[BKarchitect]

I’m having 8 years of Ristolainen flashbacks

Nobody who saw Chychrun on a non-horrific Coyotes team last year can compare him to Risto with a straight face. Absolutely ludicrous and lazy comp.

 

[elitepete]

christ, youd think Chychrun won 2 Norrises seeing what people would give up for him.... The guy is having an absolutely awful season.

Based on what exactly.. care to explain?

 

[Soundgarden]

I’m having 8 years of Ristolainen flashbacks

I don't see how they compare, Buffalo fans were calling for Risto to get moved for years. Risto is a one dimensional player, Chychrun is absolutely a top pairing guy, even though he plays on one of the worst teams in the league.

 

[Flan the incredible]

If Florida gets Chychrun they are over the cap next year and will need to sign 5 or 6 guys. Oh it only gets worse as Hubs is going to need an extention the year after. This move would be a 1 year all in or nothing because after that their depth is gone.

I have to wonder if all these leaks are to just drive up prices for acquiring teams

 

[BKarchitect]

You might be right. But no way Zito includes either Lundell or Knight in any deal. If AZ insists on either of them, there's no deal.

That’s fair. Not sure why the Panthers would need to make such a big move anyways. Things are going amazingly well.

 

[Desert Panther]

That’s fair. Not sure why the Panthers would need to make such a big move anyways. Things are going amazingly well.

It's a short term/long term move. Chychrun would likely be the replacement for Weegar when his contract comes due after next season. The Panthers will be hard pressed to stay under the cap to get both him and Huberdeau resigned.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

christ, youd think Chychrun won 2 Norrises seeing what people would give up for him.... The guy is having an absolutely awful season.

Finally someone said it. Solid dman but so overhyped my goodness

 

[WingsToPick4th]

Zadina (60A)
Veleno (30th OA)
2022 First

 

[Point21]

good news is this rules out Tampa since i dont think we have any more former first rounders to trade other than Foote and Sergachev