After McD, Mack, and Hedman? I don't really have any certainties after that either. I think most likely Kucherov would be in there, but he's not in stone for me. His skill level is off the charts and he adds some feistiness and competitiveness. i think Crosby and Malkin could be considered. I'd even consider Bergeron, if looking at the last few years, but he's old, so I doubt going forward. He puts up solid point totals, not really up there with these other guys but still great, and is the best two way forward in the NHL. I can't think of any Dmen other than Hedman right now, and i don't really think I'd mix goalies in there. I don't really think Panarin is top 5, but he deserves mention. Matthews is more 7 to 10 for me, with his combination of goal scoring and solid all around play. Eichel not too far behind. Things get pretty foggy pretty quickly once you get past the top few players. Lots of different opinions.
There is not an equal sample size. That's the whole point. Ovechkin has more games, which is the only reason he has more raw primary points. Crosby is still the better primary point producer. He produces primary points better than Ovechkin. How many games somebody played as the best primary point producer is fairly irrelevant, as long as we have a representative sample.
He is, but that's besides the point.
The sample size is not bad, but the sample is unequal, so you can't base your conclusions on raw totals.
Not sure what you mean, because Marner is not a better primary point producer than Matthews... I also didn't say anything about ranking players or only looking at primary points. This is solely about the fact that Crosby is a better primary point producer than Ovechkin, which was a response to an Ovechkin fan somehow attempting to use secondary assists against Crosby, despite him being the best primary point producer in his generation...
They both have 126 primary points over the past 2 years, and Marner played more games. So no, Matthews is still higher per-game over your chosen time-frame, though again, this really has nothing to do with the previous discussion.
It's already been explained to you how that discussion evolved, and if you dislike the discussion, I'm not sure why you're choosing to extend it, especially with incorrect, irrelevant claims.
You were literally part of the discussion on primary points, and it would be over right now if you hadn't brought up unrelated, false claims regarding Matthews/Marner. Methodology is rather important in a discussion about evaluating players. If we are only going by the exact wording of the thread question itself, it has a rather obvious and straightforward answer, with little room for discussion. Whether or not these are the top-5 players, these are factually not the undisputed top-5 players. "Undisputed" is a strong word, and extremely rare on HF.
its TSN.
That makes no sense. Or theyd do the same for mackinnon. Neither play for the leafs.
