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American Prospect Update Thread - Part 4

Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by William H Bonney, Aug 23, 2012.

  1. rickardr

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  2. William H Bonney

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    They don't send NTDPers to this tournament unless they missed a lot of time during the U17 season (why Adam Samuelsson is there) or they were just added to the NTDP for the U18 season (like Gavin Hain). USAH treats the Hlinka as a tournament to evaluate non-NTDPers and improve depth.
     
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    That explains a lot, thanks!

    A different approach from the Swedes who always sends the best they have in every tourney.
     
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    2018 FC Top 30 Prospects with Americans in Bold:

    1). D RASMUS DAHLIN, FROLUNDA (SHL), 6-1, 165
    2). RW ANDREI SVECHNIKOV, MUSKEGON (USHL), 6-2, 190
    3). LW FILIP ZADINA, PARDUBICE (CZECH), 6-1, 190
    4). C JOSEPH VELENO, SAINT JOHN (QMJHL), 6-1, 180
    5). D JARED MCISAAC, HALIFAX (QMJHL), 6-2, 210
    6). C BRADY TKACHUK, USNTDP U18 (USHL), 6-2, 200
    7). D BODE WILDE, USNTDP U17 (USHL), 6-2, 195
    8). D RYAN MERKLEY, GUELPH (OHL), 5-11, 170
    9). D QUINTON HUGHES, USNTDP U18 (USHL), 5-9, 170
    10). LW ANDERSON MACDONALD, SHERBROOKE (QMJHL), 6-2, 205
    11). C OLIVER WAHLSTROM, USNTDP U17 (USHL), 6-1, 200
    12). D TY SMITH, SPOKANE (WHL), 5-11, 170
    13). C BENOIT-OLIVIER GROULX, HALIFAX (QMJHL), 6-1, 180
    14). D ADAM BOQVIST, BRYNAS J20 (SUPERELIT), 5-11, 170
    15). C JACK MCBAIN, TORONTO JR. CANADIENS (OJHL), 6-3, 185
    16). C ALEXANDER KHOVANOV, IRBIS KAZAN (MHL), 5-11, 180
    17). D JETT WOO, MOOSE JAW (WHL), 6-0, 200
    18). D EVAN BOUCHARD, LONDON (OHL), 6-2, 185
    19). C RYAN MCLEOD, MISSISSAUGA (OHL), 6-2, 190
    20). LW VLADISLAV KOTKOV, KRASNAYA ARMIYA MOSKVA (MHL), 6-4, 200
    21). C AKIL THOMAS, NIAGARA (OHL), 5-11, 165
    22). C JAKE WISE, USNTDP U17 (USHL), 5-10, 185
    23). D XAVIER BOUCHARD, BAIE-COMEAU (QMJHL), 6-2, 175
    24). C TY DELLANDREA, FLINT (OHL), 6-1, 180
    25). C ISAC LUNDESTROM, LULEA (SHL), 6-0, 180
    26). LW GRIGORI DENISENKO, LOKO YAROSLAVL (MHL), 5-11, 155
    27). LW PHILIPP KURASHEV, QUEBEC (QMJHL), 6-1, 185
    28). D GIOVANNI VALLATI, KITCHENER (OHL), 6-1, 185
    29). D K’ANDRE MILLER, USNTDP U17 (USHL), 6-3, 195
    30). D MATTIAS SAMUELSSON, USNTDP U17 (USHL), 6-3, 205
     
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    every single one of them from the USNDP - that just doesn't seem like a system working throughout this country...this draft looked beyond massive for the US, but if the kids outside the USNDP aren't stepping up, it will be another average draft
     
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    I think Gavin Hain will go first round. If Jack Jensen takes a big step, he could.
     
  7. Uncle Rotter

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    Kind of doubt there will be only 9 Euros in the 1st round.
     
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    Pavel Buchnevich AV AND GORTON OUT

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    There are like 50 first round talents in this draft, so it just depends who performs. Pretty strong year for USA and Canada, strong for Sweden and Russia as well, weak for Finland.
     
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    Joel Farabee should be a top 20 pick. Akil Thomas was born in the US too.
     
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    Farabee: Excellent speed and shot. A genuine finisher. 19 points in 22 games when called up to U18s from the 17s.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmIA6ka0Zzw
     
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    Farabee not in the top 25 is crazy, with Thomas not sure what he was to be honest, I knew born in Florida but looks like he has lived there for a while as well. Looks to be able to represent either country, hope he picks the US as it seems he resides there for the past few years outside of hockey.
     
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    Can anyone talk to me about the 2 massive Minnesota kids in Donovan and Meyer?? These kids are huge and still 2 years away from their draft? Are they here on size and hype or can these kids play as well? Would be great to see a few more dominant sized players coming out of Minny again since many of the last few have kind of fizzled a bit.
     
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    Thomas played for Canada at the IIHF U-18. Here's some details on his background:
    https://colorofhockey.com/2016/04/0...as-looks-to-continue-familys-hockey-tradtion/
     
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    I saw that he played for Canada, but these kid can switch just like Logan Brown just did...

    Seems his mom is American, he was born in the US, so I take it his father would be from Canada? Only way he could even play for Canada.

    Interesting story none the less, wish the kid well regardless of where he plays.
     
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    Brown never played the IIHF U18's for Canada though, so he was free to switch in that sense. Thomas would have to abandon any hope of playing the WJC if he wanted to play for USA now. Both his father and uncle are canadian and were minor league players.

    http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=158133
    http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=17952
     
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    I have no clue how people come to the conclusion that Wahlstrom is a better prospect than Farabee.
     
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    Donovan I would chalk up to mostly size and hype.

    Meyer is a bit of a wild card. He plays for a small school in a bad conference (same school Hunter Miska came from). He was their leading scorer this year as a sophomore and recently committed to UMD but he hasn't gotten too much exposure up until now.

    I was surprised by both of their inclusions in the team.
     
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    DeRidder is hurt. He never actually played at the Select 17 camp. I was told he broke his hand boxing.
     
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    Biggest surprise to me is no Perbix. He had a few games with the NTDP team and I think he would have been one of their top guys, if he had played a full season and got used to the play.
     
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    I'm guessing you haven't seen either play a lot recently?

    Both could be really high picks in 2019, depending on how they do in the USHL in their draft year.
     
  22. William H Bonney

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    The 2017 Five Nations U17 team was named. All of the most hyped non-NTDP players are there for the most part outside of Luke Toporowski. He was at the player development camp, but not selected. On first glance, that'll surprise some due to that ridiculous hype article generated by Scotty Bowman's comments, but he's never really produced anywhere close to his hype, so it's not that surprising.
     
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    USAH just recently released the rosters for the Select 15 Player Development Camp, and Dylan Peterson is going to be there. He's considered to be the best 2002 prospect in Ontario and in the running for the #1 overall OHL pick in their next draft. He's also a dual citizen and committed to BU.
     
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    The Draft Analyst Top 62 for 2018:

    1 Andrei Svechnikov RW Muskegon USHL L 6’2 187 RUS
    2 Rasmus Dahlin LHD Frolunda SHL L 6’2 181 SWE
    3 Filip Zadina LW Pardubice Extraliga L 6’0 190 CZE
    4 Jesperi Kotkaniemi C Assat Liiga L 6’2 190 FIN
    5 Ryan Merkley RHD Guelph OHL R 5’11 165 CAN
    6 Joe Veleno C Saint John QMJHL L 6’0 181 CAN
    7 Jared MacIssac LHD Halifax QMJHL L 6’2 209 CAN
    8 Bode Wilde RHD U.S. U18 NTDP R 6’2 194 USA Harvard
    9 Brady Tkachuk C/LW Boston Univ HE L 6’2 194 USA Boston Univ.
    10 Ty Smith LHD Spokane WHL L 5’11 176 CAN
    11 Milos Roman C Trinec Extraliga L 5’11 194 SVK
    12 Ty Dellandrea C Flint OHL R 6’1 181 CAN
    13 Quinn Hughes LHD U.S. U18 NTDP L 5’9 168 USA Michigan
    14 Jakub Skarek G Dukla Jihlava Extraliga L 6’3 196 CZE
    15 Oliver Wahlstrom C/W U.S. U18 NTDP R 6’1 198 USA Harvard
    16 Ryan McLeod C Mississauga OHL L 6’2 190 CAN
    17 Anderson MacDonald LW Sherbrooke QMJHL L 6’2 203 CAN
    18 Calen Addison RHD Lethbridge WHL R 5’9 179 CAN
    19 Allan McShane C Oshawa OHL L 5’11 190 CAN
    20 Adam Boqvist RHD Brynas J20 Superelit R 5’11 170 SWE
    21 Joel Farabee LW U.S. U18 NTDP L 5’11 148 USA Boston Univ.
    22 Nando Eggenberger LW Davos NLA L 6’2 185 SUI
    23 Philip Kurashev LW Quebec QMJHL L 6’0 183 SUI
    24 Alexander Khovanov C Irbis Kazan MHL L 5’11 179 RUS
    25 Benoit-Olivier Groulx C Halifax QMJHL L 6’1 176 CAN
    26 Evan Bouchard RHD London OHL R 6’2 181 CAN
    27 Jesse Ylonen RW Espoo United Mestis R 6’0 159 FIN
    28 Giovanni Vallati LHD Kitchener OHL L 6’1 185 CAN
    29 Akil Thomas C Niagara OHL R 5’11 165 CAN
    30 Jake Wise C U.S. U18 NTDP L 5’10 185 USA Boston Univ.
    31 Jáchym Kondelík C/W Muskegon USHL L 6’7 218 CZE
    32 Jett Woo RHD Moose Jaw WHL R 6’0 201 CAN
    33 K’andre Miller LHD U.S. U18 NTDP L 6’3 192 USA Wisconsin
    34 Xavier Bouchard RHD Baie Comeau QMJHL R 6’2 176 CAN
    35 Isac Lundestrom LW/C Lulea J20 Superelit L 5’11 176 SWE
    36 David Levin LW Sudbury OHL L 5’10 172 CAN
    37 Ondrej Buchtela RHD Chomutov Extraliga R 6’0 187 CZE
    38 Vitali Kravtsov C/W Belye Medvedi MHL L 6’2 170 RUS
    39 Grigori Denisenko LW Loko Yaroslavl MHL R 5’10 163 RUS
    40 Alexander Alexeeyev LHD Red Deer WHL L 6’3 190 RUS
    41 Dominik Bokk RW Kolner DNL R 5’11 154 GER
    42 Mathias-Emilio Pettersen C Muskegon USHL L 5’10 170 NOR
    43 Kirill Nizhnikov RW Barrie OHL L 6’1 190 RUS
    44 Gavin Hain C Sioux Falls USHL L 5’11 187 USA North Dakota
    45 Rasmus Sandin LHD Rogle J20 Superelit L 5’11 183 SWE
    46 Blake McLaughlin C Chicago USHL L 5’11 161 USA Minnesota
    47 Ivan Muranov LW HK MVD MHL L 6’3 183 RUS
    48 Filip Hallander C/W Timra IK Allsvenskan L 6’0 179 SWE
    49 Adam Liska LW Slovakia U20 Slovak Extraliga L 6’0 181 SVK
    50 Mikhail Bitsadzhe C HK MVD MHL L 5’10 165 RUS
    51 Jonathan Tychonick LHD Penticton BCHL L 5’11 165 CAN North Dakota
    52 Michal Ivan LHD Zvolen Slovak Extraliga L 6’1 179 SVK
    53 Jacob Ingham G Mississauga OHL L 6’3 181 CAN
    54 Alexis Gravel G Halifax QMJHL R 6’3 209 CAN
    55 Martin Fehérváry LHD Oskarshamm Allsvenskan L 6’1 190 SVK
    56 Linus Nässén LW Frolunda J20 Superelit L 5’11 179 SWE
    57 Mattias Samuelsson LHD U.S. U18 NTDP L 6’3 205 USA Michigan
    58 Denis Miller RW Atlanty MHL R 5’11 176 RUS
    59 Jakub Lauko C Chomutov Extraliga L 6’1 172 RUS
    60 Rasmus Kupari C Karpat Jr-A SM-Liiga R 6’0 168 FIN
    61 Keegan Karki G U.S. U18 NTDP L 6’4 218 USA North Dakota
    62 Olof Lindbom G Djugardens J20 Superelit L 6’2 185 SWE

    Country:

    19 Canada
    11 USA
    10 Russia
    7 Sweden
    4 Czech
    4 Slovakia
    3 Finland

    College Choices:

    3 BU
    3 North Dakota
    2 Harvard
    2 Michigan
    1 Minn
    1 Wisco
     
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    Brady Tkachuk played both center and wing for the NTDP U18s last year. Believe he was at center during the World U18s. Would anyone who has seen him multiple times venture an opinion about where he'll likely play in the future? He'll probably be at LW during his freshman season.
     

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