American Prospect Update Thread - Part 4

[AmericanDream]

every single one of them from the USNDP - that just doesn't seem like a system working throughout this country...this draft looked beyond massive for the US, but if the kids outside the USNDP aren't stepping up, it will be another average draft

 

[Bonin21]

I think Gavin Hain will go first round. If Jack Jensen takes a big step, he could.

 

[Uncle Rotter]

2018 FC Top 30 Prospects with Americans in Bold:

1). D RASMUS DAHLIN, FROLUNDA (SHL), 6-1, 165
2). RW ANDREI SVECHNIKOV, MUSKEGON (USHL), 6-2, 190
3). LW FILIP ZADINA, PARDUBICE (CZECH), 6-1, 190
4). C JOSEPH VELENO, SAINT JOHN (QMJHL), 6-1, 180
5). D JARED MCISAAC, HALIFAX (QMJHL), 6-2, 210
6). C BRADY TKACHUK, USNTDP U18 (USHL), 6-2, 200
7). D BODE WILDE, USNTDP U17 (USHL), 6-2, 195
8). D RYAN MERKLEY, GUELPH (OHL), 5-11, 170
9). D QUINTON HUGHES, USNTDP U18 (USHL), 5-9, 170
10). LW ANDERSON MACDONALD, SHERBROOKE (QMJHL), 6-2, 205
11). C OLIVER WAHLSTROM, USNTDP U17 (USHL), 6-1, 200
12). D TY SMITH, SPOKANE (WHL), 5-11, 170
13). C BENOIT-OLIVIER GROULX, HALIFAX (QMJHL), 6-1, 180
14). D ADAM BOQVIST, BRYNAS J20 (SUPERELIT), 5-11, 170
15). C JACK MCBAIN, TORONTO JR. CANADIENS (OJHL), 6-3, 185
16). C ALEXANDER KHOVANOV, IRBIS KAZAN (MHL), 5-11, 180
17). D JETT WOO, MOOSE JAW (WHL), 6-0, 200
18). D EVAN BOUCHARD, LONDON (OHL), 6-2, 185
19). C RYAN MCLEOD, MISSISSAUGA (OHL), 6-2, 190
20). LW VLADISLAV KOTKOV, KRASNAYA ARMIYA MOSKVA (MHL), 6-4, 200
21). C AKIL THOMAS, NIAGARA (OHL), 5-11, 165
22). C JAKE WISE, USNTDP U17 (USHL), 5-10, 185
23). D XAVIER BOUCHARD, BAIE-COMEAU (QMJHL), 6-2, 175
24). C TY DELLANDREA, FLINT (OHL), 6-1, 180
25). C ISAC LUNDESTROM, LULEA (SHL), 6-0, 180
26). LW GRIGORI DENISENKO, LOKO YAROSLAVL (MHL), 5-11, 155
27). LW PHILIPP KURASHEV, QUEBEC (QMJHL), 6-1, 185
28). D GIOVANNI VALLATI, KITCHENER (OHL), 6-1, 185
29). D K’ANDRE MILLER, USNTDP U17 (USHL), 6-3, 195
30). D MATTIAS SAMUELSSON, USNTDP U17 (USHL), 6-3, 205

Kind of doubt there will be only 9 Euros in the 1st round.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Kind of doubt there will be only 9 Euros in the 1st round.

There are like 50 first round talents in this draft, so it just depends who performs. Pretty strong year for USA and Canada, strong for Sweden and Russia as well, weak for Finland.

 

[orangeandblack]

Joel Farabee should be a top 20 pick. Akil Thomas was born in the US too.

 

[Rogie21]

Joel Farabee should be a top 20 pick. Akil Thomas was born in the US too.

Farabee: Excellent speed and shot. A genuine finisher. 19 points in 22 games when called up to U18s from the 17s.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmIA6ka0Zzw

 

[AmericanDream]

Joel Farabee should be a top 20 pick. Akil Thomas was born in the US too.

Farabee not in the top 25 is crazy, with Thomas not sure what he was to be honest, I knew born in Florida but looks like he has lived there for a while as well. Looks to be able to represent either country, hope he picks the US as it seems he resides there for the past few years outside of hockey.

 

[AmericanDream]

Hlinka Roster announced:

http://teamusa.usahockey.com/page/show/3473195-2017-u-s-under-18-select-team

I'm surprised at no TJ Walsh or Dev McCabe up front. Also a bit odd that incoming U18 NTDP goalies DeRidder and Mor were both left off. They will usually choose new additions to the NTDP (like Hain) for the team.

Can anyone talk to me about the 2 massive Minnesota kids in Donovan and Meyer?? These kids are huge and still 2 years away from their draft? Are they here on size and hype or can these kids play as well? Would be great to see a few more dominant sized players coming out of Minny again since many of the last few have kind of fizzled a bit.

 

[Uncle Rotter]

Farabee not in the top 25 is crazy, with Thomas not sure what he was to be honest, I knew born in Florida but looks like he has lived there for a while as well. Looks to be able to represent either country, hope he picks the US as it seems he resides there for the past few years outside of hockey.

Thomas played for Canada at the IIHF U-18. Here's some details on his background:
https://colorofhockey.com/2016/04/0...as-looks-to-continue-familys-hockey-tradtion/

 

[AmericanDream]

Thomas played for Canada at the IIHF U-18. Here's some details on his background:
https://colorofhockey.com/2016/04/0...as-looks-to-continue-familys-hockey-tradtion/

I saw that he played for Canada, but these kid can switch just like Logan Brown just did...

Seems his mom is American, he was born in the US, so I take it his father would be from Canada? Only way he could even play for Canada.

Interesting story none the less, wish the kid well regardless of where he plays.

 

[Zaddy]

I saw that he played for Canada, but these kid can switch just like Logan Brown just did...

Seems his mom is American, he was born in the US, so I take it his father would be from Canada? Only way he could even play for Canada.

Interesting story none the less, wish the kid well regardless of where he plays.

Brown never played the IIHF U18's for Canada though, so he was free to switch in that sense. Thomas would have to abandon any hope of playing the WJC if he wanted to play for USA now. Both his father and uncle are canadian and were minor league players.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=158133
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=17952

 

[AmericanDream]

Brown never played the IIHF U18's for Canada though, so he was free to switch in that sense. Thomas would have to abandon any hope of playing the WJC if he wanted to play for USA now. Both his father and uncle are canadian and were minor league players.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=158133
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=17952

very true. seems like a good kid, wish him the best.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I have no clue how people come to the conclusion that Wahlstrom is a better prospect than Farabee.

 

[Jaykay]

Can anyone talk to me about the 2 massive Minnesota kids in Donovan and Meyer?? These kids are huge and still 2 years away from their draft? Are they here on size and hype or can these kids play as well? Would be great to see a few more dominant sized players coming out of Minny again since many of the last few have kind of fizzled a bit.

Donovan I would chalk up to mostly size and hype.

Meyer is a bit of a wild card. He plays for a small school in a bad conference (same school Hunter Miska came from). He was their leading scorer this year as a sophomore and recently committed to UMD but he hasn't gotten too much exposure up until now.

I was surprised by both of their inclusions in the team.

 

[herbst20]

Hlinka Roster announced:

http://teamusa.usahockey.com/page/show/3473195-2017-u-s-under-18-select-team

I'm surprised at no TJ Walsh or Dev McCabe up front. Also a bit odd that incoming U18 NTDP goalies DeRidder and Mor were both left off. They will usually choose new additions to the NTDP (like Hain) for the team.

DeRidder is hurt. He never actually played at the Select 17 camp. I was told he broke his hand boxing.

 

[North Country]

Biggest surprise to me is no Perbix. He had a few games with the NTDP team and I think he would have been one of their top guys, if he had played a full season and got used to the play.

 

[WesternCollegeHockey]

I was surprised by both of their inclusions in the team.

I'm guessing you haven't seen either play a lot recently?

Both could be really high picks in 2019, depending on how they do in the USHL in their draft year.

 

[William H Bonney]

The 2017 Five Nations U17 team was named. All of the most hyped non-NTDP players are there for the most part outside of Luke Toporowski. He was at the player development camp, but not selected. On first glance, that'll surprise some due to that ridiculous hype article generated by Scotty Bowman's comments, but he's never really produced anywhere close to his hype, so it's not that surprising.

 

[William H Bonney]

USAH just recently released the rosters for the Select 15 Player Development Camp, and Dylan Peterson is going to be there. He's considered to be the best 2002 prospect in Ontario and in the running for the #1 overall OHL pick in their next draft. He's also a dual citizen and committed to BU.

 

[razor ray]

The Draft Analyst Top 62 for 2018:

1 Andrei Svechnikov RW Muskegon USHL L 6’2 187 RUS
2 Rasmus Dahlin LHD Frolunda SHL L 6’2 181 SWE
3 Filip Zadina LW Pardubice Extraliga L 6’0 190 CZE
4 Jesperi Kotkaniemi C Assat Liiga L 6’2 190 FIN
5 Ryan Merkley RHD Guelph OHL R 5’11 165 CAN
6 Joe Veleno C Saint John QMJHL L 6’0 181 CAN
7 Jared MacIssac LHD Halifax QMJHL L 6’2 209 CAN
8 Bode Wilde RHD U.S. U18 NTDP R 6’2 194 USA Harvard
9 Brady Tkachuk C/LW Boston Univ HE L 6’2 194 USA Boston Univ.
10 Ty Smith LHD Spokane WHL L 5’11 176 CAN
11 Milos Roman C Trinec Extraliga L 5’11 194 SVK
12 Ty Dellandrea C Flint OHL R 6’1 181 CAN
13 Quinn Hughes LHD U.S. U18 NTDP L 5’9 168 USA Michigan
14 Jakub Skarek G Dukla Jihlava Extraliga L 6’3 196 CZE
15 Oliver Wahlstrom C/W U.S. U18 NTDP R 6’1 198 USA Harvard
16 Ryan McLeod C Mississauga OHL L 6’2 190 CAN
17 Anderson MacDonald LW Sherbrooke QMJHL L 6’2 203 CAN
18 Calen Addison RHD Lethbridge WHL R 5’9 179 CAN
19 Allan McShane C Oshawa OHL L 5’11 190 CAN
20 Adam Boqvist RHD Brynas J20 Superelit R 5’11 170 SWE
21 Joel Farabee LW U.S. U18 NTDP L 5’11 148 USA Boston Univ.
22 Nando Eggenberger LW Davos NLA L 6’2 185 SUI
23 Philip Kurashev LW Quebec QMJHL L 6’0 183 SUI
24 Alexander Khovanov C Irbis Kazan MHL L 5’11 179 RUS
25 Benoit-Olivier Groulx C Halifax QMJHL L 6’1 176 CAN
26 Evan Bouchard RHD London OHL R 6’2 181 CAN
27 Jesse Ylonen RW Espoo United Mestis R 6’0 159 FIN
28 Giovanni Vallati LHD Kitchener OHL L 6’1 185 CAN
29 Akil Thomas C Niagara OHL R 5’11 165 CAN
30 Jake Wise C U.S. U18 NTDP L 5’10 185 USA Boston Univ.
31 Jáchym Kondelík C/W Muskegon USHL L 6’7 218 CZE
32 Jett Woo RHD Moose Jaw WHL R 6’0 201 CAN
33 K’andre Miller LHD U.S. U18 NTDP L 6’3 192 USA Wisconsin
34 Xavier Bouchard RHD Baie Comeau QMJHL R 6’2 176 CAN
35 Isac Lundestrom LW/C Lulea J20 Superelit L 5’11 176 SWE
36 David Levin LW Sudbury OHL L 5’10 172 CAN
37 Ondrej Buchtela RHD Chomutov Extraliga R 6’0 187 CZE
38 Vitali Kravtsov C/W Belye Medvedi MHL L 6’2 170 RUS
39 Grigori Denisenko LW Loko Yaroslavl MHL R 5’10 163 RUS
40 Alexander Alexeeyev LHD Red Deer WHL L 6’3 190 RUS
41 Dominik Bokk RW Kolner DNL R 5’11 154 GER
42 Mathias-Emilio Pettersen C Muskegon USHL L 5’10 170 NOR
43 Kirill Nizhnikov RW Barrie OHL L 6’1 190 RUS
44 Gavin Hain C Sioux Falls USHL L 5’11 187 USA North Dakota
45 Rasmus Sandin LHD Rogle J20 Superelit L 5’11 183 SWE
46 Blake McLaughlin C Chicago USHL L 5’11 161 USA Minnesota
47 Ivan Muranov LW HK MVD MHL L 6’3 183 RUS
48 Filip Hallander C/W Timra IK Allsvenskan L 6’0 179 SWE
49 Adam Liska LW Slovakia U20 Slovak Extraliga L 6’0 181 SVK
50 Mikhail Bitsadzhe C HK MVD MHL L 5’10 165 RUS
51 Jonathan Tychonick LHD Penticton BCHL L 5’11 165 CAN North Dakota
52 Michal Ivan LHD Zvolen Slovak Extraliga L 6’1 179 SVK
53 Jacob Ingham G Mississauga OHL L 6’3 181 CAN
54 Alexis Gravel G Halifax QMJHL R 6’3 209 CAN
55 Martin Fehérváry LHD Oskarshamm Allsvenskan L 6’1 190 SVK
56 Linus Nässén LW Frolunda J20 Superelit L 5’11 179 SWE
57 Mattias Samuelsson LHD U.S. U18 NTDP L 6’3 205 USA Michigan
58 Denis Miller RW Atlanty MHL R 5’11 176 RUS
59 Jakub Lauko C Chomutov Extraliga L 6’1 172 RUS
60 Rasmus Kupari C Karpat Jr-A SM-Liiga R 6’0 168 FIN
61 Keegan Karki G U.S. U18 NTDP L 6’4 218 USA North Dakota
62 Olof Lindbom G Djugardens J20 Superelit L 6’2 185 SWE

Country:
19 Canada
11 USA
10 Russia
7 Sweden
4 Czech
4 Slovakia
3 Finland

College Choices:
3 BU
3 North Dakota
2 Harvard
2 Michigan
1 Minn
1 Wisco

 

[Rogie21]

Brady Tkachuk played both center and wing for the NTDP U18s last year. Believe he was at center during the World U18s. Would anyone who has seen him multiple times venture an opinion about where he'll likely play in the future? He'll probably be at LW during his freshman season.

 

[Bonin21]

Karki is no longer committed to UND. Tychoniuk is, so it's still 3. Pettersen is committed to DU.

 

[North Country]

Can anyone talk to me about the 2 massive Minnesota kids in Donovan and Meyer?? These kids are huge and still 2 years away from their draft? Are they here on size and hype or can these kids play as well? Would be great to see a few more dominant sized players coming out of Minny again since many of the last few have kind of fizzled a bit.

Both are huge, have very good speed and can really think the game. I can easily see both as first rounders in 2019.

 

[DatDude44]

Trevor Kuntar should be added to 2001 tendered by youngstown.

Luke Tuch should be added to 2002. (brother of Alex Tuch)

 

[instartlogic]

Here is the breakdown of the top 6 North American goalies on the NHL.com Midterm Rankings:

1.) Keith Petruzzelli USA
2.) Ian Scott Canada
3.) Jake Ottinger USA
4.) Cayden Primeau USA
5.) Maksim Zhukov Russia
6.) Dayton Rasmussen USA


http://www.nhl.com/ice/draftprospectbrowse.htm?cat=3&sort=midtermRank&year=2017

Thanks!