American Prospect Update Thread - Part 4

[William H Bonney]

That may be true, if a player commits to the NTDP, is he bound to this commitment or can he decommit and go to the CHL? Any consequences?

They sign contracts with the NTDP so there are consequences.

 

[razor ray]

I did a breakdown of the Top 50 Midterm Rankings on NHL.com for North American skaters and here it is:

Canada 30
USA 11
International 9

#5 Mittlestat
#14 Poehling
#17 Yamamoto
#30 Mismash
#34 Robterson
#37 Lodnia
#38 Chmeleviski
#43 Samberg
#46 Norris
#47 Reddy
#48 Mirageas

http://www.nhl.com/ice/draftprospectbrowse.htm?cat=1&sort=midtermRank&year=2017

Updated with Final Rankings:

3. Mittlestat (up 2 spots)
13. Poehling (up 1 spot)
14. Robertson (up 20 spots)
17. Yamamoto
24. Mismash (up 6 spots)
34. Norris (up 12 spots)
36. Lodnia (up 1 spot)
40. Reddy (up 7 spots)
43. Chmeleviski (down 5 spots)
46. Farrance (up 6 spots)

Samberg and Mirageas dropped out of the top 50

http://www.nhl.com/ice/draftprospectbrowse.htm?cat=1&sort=finalRank&year=2017&pg=1

 

[William H Bonney]

The NTDP U18 team (2000 group) is losing four players. Forward Blade Jenkins is headed to the OHL, and d-man Will MacKinnon, and goalies Keegan Karki and Ryan Ullan are headed to USHL clubs.

No real losses here to be honest outside of possibly Karki, but goalies Drew DeRidder (Cedar Rapids and YOG Gold Medalist) and Jon Mor are joining the NTDP. DeRidder should have been on this team from the beginning.

 

[Juxtaposer]

The NTDP U18 team (2000 group) is losing four players. Forward Blade Jenkins is headed to the OHL, and d-man Will MacKinnon, and goalies Keegan Karki and Ryan Ullan are headed to USHL clubs.

No real losses here to be honest outside of possibly Karki, but goalies Drew DeRidder (Cedar Rapids and YOG Gold Medalist) and Jon Mor are joining the NTDP. DeRidder should have been on this team from the beginning.

Jenkins had a really tough year stats-wise. What's up with him? Is this another Luke Kirwan type of situation?

 

[Firecracker]

Jenkins had a really tough year stats-wise. What's up with him? Is this another Luke Kirwan type of situation?

His skills didn't translate very well. His poor skating really affected him I think.

 

[Rogie21]

Feature story on Tyler Weiss who was second in scoring for the U17s. Interesting comment on attitudes toward Americans playing in Canada.
http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/nhl/carolina-hurricanes/article148137959.html

 

[Goals4u]

I am sure the Canadiens don't like Americans coming up there and taking their kids spot on a team and vice versa. The chirping in a rink is part of the game.

 

[Goals4u]

NTDP is lucky to get DeRidder!!!

 

[wings5]

Weird that Karki left considering the amount of games he was getting. I assume the others left due to playing time issues. Still in the dark about why Adam Samuelsson missed so many games though I'm assuming he had an injury of sorts.

 

[Bonin21]

I thought they were all kicked off

 

[OldScool]

Some names to keep an eye on for next years NTDP class:

Per Jeff Cox‏ @JeffCoxSports

Top 6 USA '02s:
Fs Antonio Stranges (UM)
Ty Smilanic (DU)
Jason Siedem (BC)

Ds Jacob Truscott (UM)
Daniel Juzych,

G Drew Commesso (UNH)

 

[MMC]

Who is the best American D prospect in this draft assuming we're not counting Callan Foote

 

[North Country]

Updated with Final Rankings:

3. Mittlestat (up 2 spots)
13. Poehling (up 1 spot)
14. Robertson (up 20 spots)
17. Yamamoto
24. Mismash (up 6 spots)
34. Norris (up 12 spots)
36. Lodnia (up 1 spot)
40. Reddy (up 7 spots)
43. Chmeleviski (down 5 spots)
46. Farrance (up 6 spots)

Samberg and Mirageas dropped out of the top 50

http://www.nhl.com/ice/draftprospectbrowse.htm?cat=1&sort=finalRank&year=2017&pg=1

A good year for Minnesotans

 

[S E P H]

Hey guys quick question, how good of a player is Reggie Millette? I saw he was drafted both in the USHL and NAHL.

I know how good the T1EBHL league is, but what is the HPHL and how good is this league??!!! I thought all the top American commits played in Tier 1 Major Bantam before going off to the USHL, NAHL, and CHL?

 

[Juxtaposer]

His skills didn't translate very well. His poor skating really affected him I think.

Do you think it's fixable or is he a lost cause?

 

[GregSirico]

Q for all you prospect experts ...

I have seen quite a few kids come from California in this draft. Since when did it become a breeding ground for talent? Not being sarcastic, just asking.

 

[Mickey the mouse]

Q for all you prospect experts ...

I have seen quite a few kids come from California in this draft. Since when did it become a breeding ground for talent? Not being sarcastic, just asking.

Really started with roller hockey in the late 80's - early 90's.

Then Gretzky to Kings.

Finally, all the NHL players had kids, started helping in community, teaching the kids, etc. and there's PLENTY of $$$ out in California for travel, ice, etc.

St Louis is a GREAT example of this.....started with Cavellini brothers, Macinnis 96's, Tkachuk 97's and 99's, Brown 98's, all coached Jr Blues and look what they have turned out in the last 4 yrs.

 

[ChiGuySez]

Really started with roller hockey in the late 80's - early 90's.

Then Gretzky to Kings.

Finally, all the NHL players had kids, started helping in community, teaching the kids, etc. and there's PLENTY of $$$ out in California for travel, ice, etc.

St Louis is a GREAT example of this.....started with Cavellini brothers, Macinnis 96's, Tkachuk 97's and 99's, Brown 98's, all coached Jr Blues and look what they have turned out in the last 4 yrs.

Patrick Maroon. Born in StL.

During the summer of 2010, Maroon led the United States men's national inline hockey team to a gold medal performance at the 2010 IIHF InLine Hockey World Championship.[1] He scored seven goals and 14 points in six games at the in-line worlds including a goal and an assist in the gold medal game in Karlstad, Sweden, against the Czech Republic.[2]

Wiki

 

[Spectra]

Best US prospects for the 2018 draft? Any fallers/risers to keep an extra eye on after the summer? Thanks.

 

[orangeandblack]

Best US prospects for the 2018 draft? Any fallers/risers to keep an extra eye on after the summer? Thanks.

Some American names to follow

https://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2017/6/26/15424034/2018-nhl-draft-first-look-players-to-watch

 

[William H Bonney]

Hlinka Roster announced:

http://teamusa.usahockey.com/page/show/3473195-2017-u-s-under-18-select-team

I'm surprised at no TJ Walsh or Dev McCabe up front. Also a bit odd that incoming U18 NTDP goalies DeRidder and Mor were both left off. They will usually choose new additions to the NTDP (like Hain) for the team.

 

[rickardr]

Hlinka Roster announced:

http://teamusa.usahockey.com/page/show/3473195-2017-u-s-under-18-select-team

I don't know how this team works, or if it's not the best team possible, but where is Wahlstrom & Wise?

 

[William H Bonney]

I don't know how this team works, or if it's not the best team possible, but where is Wahlstrom & Wise?

They don't send NTDPers to this tournament unless they missed a lot of time during the U17 season (why Adam Samuelsson is there) or they were just added to the NTDP for the U18 season (like Gavin Hain). USAH treats the Hlinka as a tournament to evaluate non-NTDPers and improve depth.

 

[rickardr]

They don't send NTDPers to this tournament unless they missed a lot of time during the U17 season (why Adam Samuelsson is there) or they were just added to the NTDP for the U18 season (like Gavin Hain). USAH treats the Hlinka as a tournament to evaluate non-NTDPers and improve depth.

That explains a lot, thanks!

A different approach from the Swedes who always sends the best they have in every tourney.

 

[razor ray]

2018 FC Top 30 Prospects with Americans in Bold:

1). D RASMUS DAHLIN, FROLUNDA (SHL), 6-1, 165
2). RW ANDREI SVECHNIKOV, MUSKEGON (USHL), 6-2, 190
3). LW FILIP ZADINA, PARDUBICE (CZECH), 6-1, 190
4). C JOSEPH VELENO, SAINT JOHN (QMJHL), 6-1, 180
5). D JARED MCISAAC, HALIFAX (QMJHL), 6-2, 210
6). C BRADY TKACHUK, USNTDP U18 (USHL), 6-2, 200
7). D BODE WILDE, USNTDP U17 (USHL), 6-2, 195
8). D RYAN MERKLEY, GUELPH (OHL), 5-11, 170
9). D QUINTON HUGHES, USNTDP U18 (USHL), 5-9, 170
10). LW ANDERSON MACDONALD, SHERBROOKE (QMJHL), 6-2, 205
11). C OLIVER WAHLSTROM, USNTDP U17 (USHL), 6-1, 200
12). D TY SMITH, SPOKANE (WHL), 5-11, 170
13). C BENOIT-OLIVIER GROULX, HALIFAX (QMJHL), 6-1, 180
14). D ADAM BOQVIST, BRYNAS J20 (SUPERELIT), 5-11, 170
15). C JACK MCBAIN, TORONTO JR. CANADIENS (OJHL), 6-3, 185
16). C ALEXANDER KHOVANOV, IRBIS KAZAN (MHL), 5-11, 180
17). D JETT WOO, MOOSE JAW (WHL), 6-0, 200
18). D EVAN BOUCHARD, LONDON (OHL), 6-2, 185
19). C RYAN MCLEOD, MISSISSAUGA (OHL), 6-2, 190
20). LW VLADISLAV KOTKOV, KRASNAYA ARMIYA MOSKVA (MHL), 6-4, 200
21). C AKIL THOMAS, NIAGARA (OHL), 5-11, 165
22). C JAKE WISE, USNTDP U17 (USHL), 5-10, 185
23). D XAVIER BOUCHARD, BAIE-COMEAU (QMJHL), 6-2, 175
24). C TY DELLANDREA, FLINT (OHL), 6-1, 180
25). C ISAC LUNDESTROM, LULEA (SHL), 6-0, 180
26). LW GRIGORI DENISENKO, LOKO YAROSLAVL (MHL), 5-11, 155
27). LW PHILIPP KURASHEV, QUEBEC (QMJHL), 6-1, 185
28). D GIOVANNI VALLATI, KITCHENER (OHL), 6-1, 185
29). D K’ANDRE MILLER, USNTDP U17 (USHL), 6-3, 195
30). D MATTIAS SAMUELSSON, USNTDP U17 (USHL), 6-3, 205