Blue Jays Discussion: Almost through the off-season - Bautista keeping his bat-flipping talents in Toronto

[Deebo]

Hopefully he comes back as the DH and doesn't see the outfield.

Where would you play Kendrys Morales if Bautista is the full-time DH?

 

[thewave]

Ffs Batista, just sign already nobody likes you as it is. Don't try and weasel monies you don't deserve out of the only place in the world you have some friends.

 

[King Mapes]

Where would you play Kendrys Morales if Bautista is the full-time DH?

Pick your poison. Morales at first or Jose in RF. Though we are short on OFers.

 

[Discoverer]

A Jay Bruce trade that involves Smoak feels like it makes a lot of sense right now.

 

[theaub]

Ffs Batista, just sign already nobody likes you as it is. Don't try and weasel monies you don't deserve out of the only place in the world you have some friends.

lol que

A Jay Bruce trade that involves Smoak feels like it makes a lot of sense right now.

The Saunders AAV will probably be a comparable for what salary the Jays would need to take on so hoping its low

 

[Eyedea]

Both Passan and Sanchez have said that Bautista is leaving more money + term on the table to stay.

 

[ShaneFalco]

A Jay Bruce trade that involves Smoak feels like it makes a lot of sense right now.

Hmmm interesting thought

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Ffs Batista, just sign already nobody likes you as it is. Don't try and weasel monies you don't deserve out of the only place in the world you have some friends.

Sometimes I forget this is a hockey board...and then, well, this happens.

 

[TNCHL]

Yess!!!

 

[metafour]

Ffs Batista, just sign already nobody likes you as it is. Don't try and weasel monies you don't deserve out of the only place in the world you have some friends.

He's in the Dominican Republic.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

A Jay Bruce trade that involves Smoak feels like it makes a lot of sense right now.

Not at all for the Mets.

 

[TNCHL]

A Jay Bruce trade that involves Smoak feels like it makes a lot of sense right now.

How does that make sense from New Yorks perspective?

 

[ShaneFalco]

Anyone see Pompey getting in the lineup this year?

JB, Pillar, Carrera, Upton, Pearce, Pompey........

 

[theaub]

Not at all for the Mets.

Smoak and a B prospect with no salary retained on either side seems very possible

 

[ShaneFalco]

 

[hallhopkinseberle]

C-Martin
1B-Bautisa
2B-Travis
3B-Donaldson
SS-Tulo
LF-Pearce
CF-Pillar
RF-Pompey
DH-Morales

Pompey
Bautisa
Donaldson
Tulo
Morales
Travis
Peacre
Pillar
Martin

 

[phillipmike]

C-Martin
1B-Bautisa
2B-Travis
3B-Donaldson
SS-Tulo
LF-Pearce
CF-Pillar
RF-Pompey
DH-Morales

Pompey
Bautisa
Donaldson
Tulo
Morales
Travis
Peacre
Pillar
Martin

Pearce is coming off arm surgery. You probably dont want him in the outfield for the first few weeks or even a month. His defense at 1B has been top 3 over the last 3 years. He is better suited at 1B.

 

[theaub]

Saunders deal is $10M guaranteed, so any Bruce trade is going to have minimal, if any salary retention unless you throw in some decent prospects.

 

[Budsfan]

 

[Discoverer]

Not at all for the Mets.

It's a way of paying down some of Bruce's salary without directly giving the Jays money (which they'll have to do to get rid of Bruce). It gives them a bit of insurance behind Duda, who missed 115 games with a back injury last year. It gives them a bat off the bench.

I think it makes perfect sense for them.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Smoak and a B prospect with no salary retained on either side seems very possible

Where does Lucas Duda play?

 

[Discoverer]

Saunders deal is $10M guaranteed, so any Bruce trade is going to have minimal, if any salary retention unless you throw in some decent prospects.

Saunders was worth 1.4 fWAR in 2016 and projects for 0.7 in 2017.
Bruce was worth 0.9 fWAR in 2016 and projects for 0.4 in 2017.

Let's be generous and put Bruce's value at 75% of Saunders... so $7.5 million. He's making $5.5 million more than that in 2017.

 

[Discoverer]

Where does Lucas Duda play?

1B. And Smoak gets $4 million to sit on the bench, which is presumably preferable for the Mets than paying Bruce $13 million to do the same.

 

[zeke]

Saunders was worth 1.4 fWAR in 2016 and projects for 0.7 in 2017.
Bruce was worth 0.9 fWAR in 2016 and projects for 0.4 in 2017.

Let's be generous and put Bruce's value at 75% of Saunders... so $7.5 million. He's making $5.5 million more than that in 2017.

Morales was worth 0.7war last year and projects to 0.9 this year.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

It's a way of paying down some of Bruce's salary without directly giving the Jays money (which they'll have to do to get rid of Bruce). It gives them a bit of insurance behind Duda, who missed 115 games with a back injury last year. It gives them a bat off the bench.

I think it makes perfect sense for them.

Already have too many corner infielders. Reyes is a 3B now, Wright is a 3B\1B. Plus Ty Kelly 3B\1B on the 40-man, and Dom Smith on the 40-man (their Rowdy).