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Gil Gunderson

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It's not hard to understand. Skilled players want to be creative and earn their contracts.

The system works until you hit a slump and players stop believing it works.
 

DJB

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Atrocious pp by a guy who calls himself a specialist???

Worst in a whole bunch of categories is very telling.
18 goals for in the past 12 games ? Awful. Just awful and defensively we've given up way too many goals in that time too
 

DJB

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can we make this thread fire Boucher AND Dorion?

See I don't agree. I think he's done a marvelous job considering Melnyk has been handcuffing him financially. The tell tale sign was moving Zibanejad who was up for a new big contract in exchange for Brassard who was cost controlled. Give our GM ' s full cap freedom and I think that deal never gets done.

The talent is here on this team. The system of Boucher is garbage
 

pzeeman

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Is that it, though? Have they been playing The System though the slump?

Yes, creative players want to be creative, but wouldn’t they want to win more? They clearly know how to implement The System successfully, but is something else going on in Ottawa to keep The System from working? We’re there other factors affecting year two in TB?
 
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Pierre from Orleans

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See I don't agree. I think he's done a marvelous job considering Melnyk has been handcuffing him financially. The tell tale sign was moving Zibanejad who was up for a new big contract in exchange for Brassard who was cost controlled. Give our GM ' s full cap freedom and I think that deal never gets done.

The talent is here on this team. The system of Boucher is garbage
Dorion messed up the Zibanejad trade. He could've packaged Zibanejad with the other picks he used to obtain other useless players for a significant upgrade
 

DJB

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The funny thing about if we fire Boucher, no chance we hire an external coach, because of our financial situation likely Crawford gets promoted to keep costs down
 

Sun God Nika

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Jesus christ [mod] stop with this fire Boucher shit he just made the ECF he deserves a year.









Keep him for the season so we can bottom out then fire him.
 
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DJB

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Dorion messed up the Zibanejad trade. He could've packaged Zibanejad with the other picks he used to obtain other useless players for a significant upgrade

Dude if you can't see that we made that deal to save money I'm not sure what to say. We traded a young 22 year old who likely was going to appreciate for a 29 like to depreciate and tossed in a 2nd to get it done. If Zibanejad had another year of elc no chance we make that deal. It was purely financial driven.
 

DylanSensFan

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I don't care what the theory is. I see a lot of great players on our team that have no direction. Either they've given up on the coach, of they've given up on the GM and or ownership. I feel that the GM and coaches are to blame here, and also Melnyk.
 

DJB

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And the coach carousel continues lol its all his fault. Not our dog**** team of course

Check the lineup differences between the Maclean Era and Boucher era . Significantly different . So we have made big changes to the players so that excuse doesn't hold water in my eyes.

It's the system it's awful
 

DylanSensFan

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Atrocious pp by a guy who calls himself a specialist???

Worst in a whole bunch of categories is very telling.
18 goals for in the past 12 games ? Awful. Just awful and defensively we've given up way too many goals in that time too

I just do not think our team is intelligent or aggressive enough to have a good PP. Name one coach of the last 3 who managed a good PP?

I say fire Melnyk and find a new owner. We are going to lose Karlsson because of this idiot.
 

God Says No

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Dude if you can't see that we made that deal to save money I'm not sure what to say. We traded a young 22 year old who likely was going to appreciate for a 29 like to depreciate and tossed in a 2nd to get it done. If Zibanejad had another year of elc no chance we make that deal. It was purely financial driven.

Yip, and the 2nd was to make NYR pay the bonus. It was a pretty blatant move to save money.
 

swiftwin

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What did the GM do wrong? His latest two acquisitions have been among the best players on the ice right now.

This is on the players and/or coaching staff. Something is dysfunctional somehwere. They are waaaaay better than this.
 

Super Cake

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Honestly, I am on the fire Boucher wagon. His system sucks. Sure it worked the first season, but there is only so much defense a team can play over a season. His system is very tiring on players. No wonder the team has given up on him.
 

God Says No

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What did the GM do wrong? His latest two acquisitions have been among the best players on the ice right now.

This is on the players and/or coaching staff. Something is dysfunctional somehwere. They are waaaaay better than this.

What are you talking about? You are so short sighted. So Dumont had one good game and now he's our best player? Duchene had 2 good games in the last 10 and now you are happy. Just like you were happy with our offense? Are you still happy with our offense?
 

Deku

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I think the system is good, but the players have simply stopped playing it properly.
Just feels like a case of the players tuning out the coach. Which happens way too often with this club. Another coaching change may wake them up, but at some point we need to find a bit of consistency and stability.
 

swiftwin

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What are you talking about? You are so short sighted. So Dumont had one good game and now he's our best player? Duchene had 2 good games in the last 10 and now you are happy. Just like you were happy with our offense? Are you still happy with our offense?

I was happy with our offense because out offense was good. Right now our offense is not good. And you're calling me shortsighted?!?!
 

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