Proposal: All Bruins Rumours/Proposals 2020 V

[Over the volcano]

If you look on the Vancouver boards he is their whipping boy there. Apparently he has really regressed badly from his rookie season and is just not the same player anymore. Wont shoot the same, no confidence, etc. If it is not injury related he might benefit from a change of scenery. But the ask for him will be too high for most GMs. Similar to the Poolparty situation where the team wants too much for a project.

Sounds like Heinen here without the "big ask"

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Why do people think Bjork is gonna magically turn into some star. I would be more worried about the condtional pick than Bjork.

We would need to add Toffoli or someone to replace him on the 3rd line though.

Bjork and Heinen are legit 3rd line wings on a bubble
NHL PO Team. Boston to win The Cup need absolute upgrades on them. Bjork as a piece in a Palmieri
deal and Heinen as a piece in a Kreider trade.

People are insane if they think TB isnt bidding
on one of Kovalchuk, Kreider, or Palmieri.
TB has two #1 this year and like 9M in
deadline cap space. Boston doesn't make at
least one significant add TB will and
Boston will be at a significant disadvantage.

 

[BAD BOY]

Substitute Heinen for Bjork and will throw in a mid level prospect and are 1st rd pk this year

Ok I got it..we don’t wanna trade
Vaak
Beecher
Frederic
Stud
Carlo
McAvoy
Krug
Grizz
Lauzen ( sorry for spelling it wrong)
Pasta
Marchand
Bergeron
DeBrusk
Bjork*[ maybe , maybe not)
DK
Rask
Halak

The GM’s for NYR, NJ, LA are holding on lines 1,2,3 they wanna know what we are offering.

Who are we offering for Kreider, Palmeiri , Toffoli or anybody that can help.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Sounds like Heinen here without the "big ask"

Lol, Heinen couldn't hold Boeser's jock. Boeser's
issues are injury related. If he played 10 more
games in 2017-18 he scores over 30. Scored
26 last year in 60 something games.

Far closer to DeBrusk on any bitching scale.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Bjork and Heinen are legit 3rd line wings on a bubble
NHL PO Team. Boston to win The Cup need absolute upgrades on them. Bjork as a piece in a Palmieri
deal and Heinen as a piece in a Kreider trade.

People are insane if they think TB isnt bidding
on one of Kovalchuk, Kreider, or Palmieri.
TB has two #1 this year and like 9M in
deadline cap space. Boston doesn't make at
least one significant add TB will and
Boston will be at a significant disadvantage.

Yeah, that's just not true. I mean, it's funny.... How do guys become players who perform in the playoffs? They are given a chance. You're not going to go into the playoffs with 4 lines full of players who have uber playoff experience. Every team has "question marks".

With your proposed lineup, ignoring cap:

Marchand -- Bergeron -- Pastrnak
Kreider -- Krejci -- Palmieri
DeBrusk -- Coyle -- Kuhlman

Your top 9 still has that 3rd line winger who with a major question mark. While Heinen has struggled in the playoffs, points wise, how can you say he's a 3rd liner on an NHL bubble team when he was apart of a roster that was 1 game away from winning the cup? Overreaction type post.

 

[BAD BOY]

Bjork and Heinen are legit 3rd line wings on a bubble
NHL PO Team. Boston to win The Cup need absolute upgrades on them. Bjork as a piece in a Palmieri
deal and Heinen as a piece in a Kreider trade.

People are insane if they think TB isnt bidding
on one of Kovalchuk, Kreider, or Palmieri.
TB has two #1 this year and like 9M in
deadline cap space. Boston doesn't make at
least one significant add TB will and
Boston will be at a significant disadvantage.

Bjork and Heinen are not centerpieces for deals like that involving players at the caliber. Especially when your not taking on bad contracts. You can offer a centerpiece and go onto them two for the second piece The first rd pick your good prospect is more important . The Devils need a D-Man so if you want Palimeri start with Vaak , second RD PK and Heinen. He has one year left anything else they laugh it off . It’s reality.

 

[Over the volcano]

Lol, Heinen couldn't hold Boeser's jock. Boeser's
issues are injury related. If he played 10 more
games in 2017-18 he scores over 30. Scored
26 last year in 60 something games.

Far closer to DeBrusk on any *****ing scale.

You missed the point - it wasn't that they're the same player but that it sounds like the fan bases are in a pretty similar spot about them. AM said "If you look on the Vancouver boards he is their whipping boy there. Apparently he has really regressed badly from his rookie season and is just not the same player anymore." That rings like Heinen in here

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

Hard to believe Boeser is available but this is Benning we're talking about.

if I'm Sweeney and Boeser is really available then I'm telling Benning that everyone prospect and pick in the organization is on the table with the only exclusion being Studnicka.

@Coach Parker what are Vancouver's needs? Let's say we started with Vaak and a 1st. Does a realistic deal grow from there? I'm talking about a deal where we don't give up core roster pieces obviously.

 

[kdog82]

People reluctant to trade Heinen are baffling to me.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

People reluctant to trade Heinen are baffling to me.

Who seems reluctant to trade Heinen?

 

[kdog82]

Hard to believe Boeser is available but this is Benning we're talking about.

if I'm Sweeney and Boeser is really available then I'm telling Benning that everyone prospect and pick in the organization is on the table with the only exclusion being Studnicka.

@Coach Parker what are Vancouver's needs? Let's say we started with Vaak and a 1st. Does a realistic deal grow from there? I'm talking about a deal where we don't give up core roster pieces obviously.

How do you fit him under the cap?

 

[BAD BOY]

Killer Miller Time has a point IMO. But I don’t agree with all of it . TB pull this stuff with the McDonough deal a couple of years ago. It guarantees squat. We missed the boat on Kovalchuk and their is no way I give Montreal shit now. Lesson learned I think, Also TB first rd pk will be high just like the bruins . I know they got two but that shouldn’t stop Sweeney from doing something if he chooses. It’s his call. Something tells me he passes but you never know!

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Yeah, that's just not true. I mean, it's funny.... How do guys become players who perform in the playoffs? They are given a chance. You're not going to go into the playoffs with 4 lines full of players who have uber playoff experience. Every team has "question marks".

With your proposed lineup, ignoring cap:

Marchand -- Bergeron -- Pastrnak
Kreider -- Krejci -- Palmieri
DeBrusk -- Coyle -- Kuhlman

Your top 9 still has that 3rd line winger who with a major question mark. While Heinen has struggled in the playoffs, points wise, how can you say he's a 3rd liner on an NHL bubble team when he was apart of a roster that was 1 game away from winning the cup? Overreaction type post.

Lol, DeBrusk is an enormous upgrade over Heinen/Kuraly and Palmieri is a significant upgrade
over Kuhlman. You're far deeper than you are now
upfront, not even close.

They picked up Coyle and Johannson last
year, they had PO experience, looked what
happened.

Good luck matching up with TB D corp
with Heinen/Bjork. Those guys will make
Coyle's impact significantly less pronounced.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

You missed the point - it wasn't that they're the same player but that it sounds like the fan bases are in a pretty similar spot about them. AM said "If you look on the Vancouver boards he is their whipping boy there. Apparently he has really regressed badly from his rookie season and is just not the same player anymore." That rings like Heinen in here

I read the Van board and its not remotely the same
whining.

 

[kdog82]

San Jose doesn't have a 1st and I'm sure they'd love to acquire one.

Heinen + 1st + Zboril for Lebanc

SJ probably has no interest in moving Lebanc but the package seems reasonable.

 

[PlayMakers]

Two weeks to the deadline. What's your prediction?

 

[bbfan419]

ESPN predicts Kreider for Bjork, 1st, and conditional pick

Not happening way too much, I would offer one of Heinen or Gryz + Frederic + 2nd if that is not good enough then move on to the next player.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

Yeah, that's just not true. I mean, it's funny.... How do guys become players who perform in the playoffs? They are given a chance. You're not going to go into the playoffs with 4 lines full of players who have uber playoff experience. Every team has "question marks".

With your proposed lineup, ignoring cap:

Marchand -- Bergeron -- Pastrnak
Kreider -- Krejci -- Palmieri
DeBrusk -- Coyle -- Kuhlman

Your top 9 still has that 3rd line winger who with a major question mark. While Heinen has struggled in the playoffs, points wise, how can you say he's a 3rd liner on an NHL bubble team when he was apart of a roster that was 1 game away from winning the cup? Overreaction type post.

You can spot the people who only watch the Bruins from a mile away because they're blatantly ignorant to the fact that the Penguins won back to back cups with guys like Wilson, Rust, Sheary, Kunitz, Cullen, etc all rotating into various spots in their top 9.

you can absolutely win with a guy like Bjork on your 3rd line. He has been terrific for the last couple months and has great chemistry with Coyle. He's the kind of guy who you take on a run to the finals and then he puts up 50+ points the next season ala Guentzel or Sheary.

 

[TCB]

Hard to believe Boeser is available but this is Benning we're talking about.

if I'm Sweeney and Boeser is really available then I'm telling Benning that everyone prospect and pick in the organization is on the table with the only exclusion being Studnicka

The Bruins don't have any untouchables, especially if they were to acquire Boeser, and why would Vancouver trade him?

Their in 1st place in the pacific,and he's only 22 under a real nice contract. The only way they would move him, I would think would be in a hockey trade.

 

[kdog82]

Not happening way too much, I would offer one of Heinen or Gryz + Frederic + 2nd if that is not good enough then move on to the next pplayer.

If Grezlcyk is being dealt for Kreider they better be taking Backes so the Bruins can re-sign Kreider.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

The Bruins don't have any untouchables, especially if they were to acquire Boeser, and why would Vancouver trade him?

Their in 1st place in the pacific,and he's only 22 under a real nice contract. The only way they would move him, I would think would be in a hockey trade.

Studnicka is untouchable IMO unless he's going in a trade for a top 2 center. And not because he's so good (he's good, but not that good). It's just that Bergeron and Krejci could fall off that cliff any time and they can't afford to trade their only legit top 2 center prospect.

 

[False Start]

If Grezlcyk is being dealt for Kreider they better be taking Backes so the Bruins can re-sign Kreider.

Wouldn't worry too much. NYR are loaded on young D just as much as we are.

 

[bbfan419]

Khulman and Zboril do not have much trade value

Zboril a bit, but Kuhlman I think does have value.

 

[LouJersey]

Two weeks to the deadline. What's your prediction?

My homerun to get it would be one or two ways. I want Palmieri and Wood on this team, now and for the long term.

offer one: Heinen, Backes, Vaak and first

offer two: Heinen, Backes, Gryz and 3rd

More likely they will scrap heap close to the deadline and deal 2nd and a scrub for Toffoli. I also expect them to get another depth defenseman for like a 4 or 5.

 

[kdog82]

Studnicka is untouchable IMO unless he's going in a trade for a top 2 center. And not because he's so good (he's good, but not that good). It's just that Bergeron and Krejci could fall off that cliff any time and they can't afford to trade their only legit top 2 center prospect.

Studnicka is untouchable. He is the Bruins long term solution for 2C.... maybe even 1C.