Prospect Info: Alexander Holtz (#7 pick - 2020 draft)

[SteveCangialosi123]

I don't know if the hit that Holtz had got posted here yet but here it is.

That’s charging??

 

[Darkauron]

Good to see refs gonna ref where ever they are

 

[Devils731]

That’s an awful charging call under NHL rules. I don’t know if the SHL has a different standard.

Holtz is just following the puck that was passed; he couldn’t possibly have been lining the player up.

 

[devilsblood]

Calls like that are why euro's are so soft.

 

[Prntscrn]

That’s an awful charging call under NHL rules. I don’t know if the SHL has a different standard.

Holtz is just following the puck that was passed; he couldn’t possibly have been lining the player up.

Nope, awful call in Sweden aswell, however we are used to it refs here got no feel for the game whatsoever. I mean you should see the length the league has gone through to make the refs untouchable. It's been a big debate the last few years and you can pretty much get an unsportsmanlike conduct by looking at them the wrong way

It was very refreshing to watch the World Juniors with only Canadian refs who could keep up.

Calls like that are why euro's are so soft.

Euro leagues are softer for sure, this softie was a tough ol' Canadian boy though with just under 100 nhl games under his belt

 

[HBK27]

How tf is that charging lol.

That they were up by 5 goals with 1:30 left to play might had something to do with the call as the officials maybe didn't want to see things get out of control.

 

[Fear the Wushu]

Calls like that are why euro's are so soft.

Maybe the SHL but the KHL tends to have a lot of fights and dirty hits. The whole KHL is soft is something that always perplexes me seeing how Russia dominates the USA and especially Canada in wrestling and MMA. They are tough motherf***ers.

 

[TheUnseenHand]

Holtz is a beast.

 

[TheDuke93]

I saw this on twitter and don't no what to make of it. @StevenToddIves I'm bat signaling you when you get a chance.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Holtz is a beast.

He is. He isn't going to drive play, but he doesn't have to. Think he will be the type of young winger the team desperately needs.

 

[TheUnseenHand]

He is. He isn't going to drive play, but he doesn't have to. Think he will be the type of young winger the team desperately needs.

There is a reason, despite the relative success of Mercer in his league and the lack of success of Holtz in his that I still believe Holtz is much closer to NHL ready. He is a physical specimen and I don't think the rigors of the NHL game will wear on him the way they would on Mercer. And he still looked more dynamic to my eye in the WJC than Mercer. Not taking anything away from Mercer at all. I just like Holtz.

 

[Emperoreddy]

There is a reason, despite the relative success of Mercer in his league and the lack of success of Holtz in his that I still believe Holtz is much closer to NHL ready. He is a physical specimen and I don't think the rigors of the NHL game will wear on him the way they would on Mercer. And he still looked more dynamic to my eye in the WJC than Mercer. Not taking anything away from Mercer at all. I just like Holtz.

To me Mercer has the higher floor but Hotlz has an elite ceiling. I don't think Mercer has that.

I do think you need both types of players for real success.

 

[Blackjack]

I saw this on twitter and don't no what to make of it. @StevenToddIves I'm bat signaling you when you get a chance.

This guy looks at the number of points scored by prospects, and models a theoretical "NHL equivalent" to those points according to which league they're scored in.

Essentially the chart is saying that the Holtz scored the equivalent of 30 NHL points in the SHL this year, and Mercer has scored the equivalent of 34 NHL points in the Q. Based on those "NHL equivalent" points, he's saying that they both have a 22% chance of being stars in the NHL.

It's interesting, but ultimately meaningless.

 

[devilsblood]

Maybe the SHL but the KHL tends to have a lot of fights and dirty hits. The whole KHL is soft is something that always perplexes me seeing how Russia dominates the USA and especially Canada in wrestling and MMA. They are tough motherf***ers.

I was kidding.

 

[TheDuke93]

This guy looks at the number of points scored by prospects, and models a theoretical "NHL equivalent" to those points according to which league they're scored in.

Essentially the chart is saying that the Holtz scored the equivalent of 30 NHL points in the SHL this year, and Mercer has scored the equivalent of 34 NHL points in the Q. Based on those "NHL equivalent" points, he's saying that they both have a 22% chance of being stars in the NHL.

It's interesting, but ultimately meaningless.

Thanks brother, appreciate that.

 

[Blackjack]

Thanks brother, appreciate that.

Still don't have my like button so

 

[My3Sons]

This guy looks at the number of points scored by prospects, and models a theoretical "NHL equivalent" to those points according to which league they're scored in.

Essentially the chart is saying that the Holtz scored the equivalent of 30 NHL points in the SHL this year, and Mercer has scored the equivalent of 34 NHL points in the Q. Based on those "NHL equivalent" points, he's saying that they both have a 22% chance of being stars in the NHL.

It's interesting, but ultimately meaningless.

It also matters how you slice the baloney. Mercer’s late season PPG would have resulted in a better NHL equivalent while Hoktz’s would have been much worse.

 

[Blackjack]

It also matters how you slice the baloney. Mercer’s late season PPG would have resulted in a better NHL equivalent while Hoktz’s would have been much worse.

Yeah, they've had some interesting seasons, that's for sure.

 

[StevenToddIves]

I saw this on twitter and don't no what to make of it. @StevenToddIves I'm bat signaling you when you get a chance.

That's a silly tweet. Holtz has been up and down in his draft+1 season, but Mercer has been absolutely dominant -- from the WJC to the QMJHL. It's just not an informed or educated opinion to me, so I have trouble responding to it.

 

[TheDuke93]

That's a silly tweet. Holtz has been up and down in his draft+1 season, but Mercer has been absolutely dominant -- from the WJC to the QMJHL. It's just not an informed or educated opinion to me, so I have trouble responding to it.

Thank you good sir. I thought it made no sense when. I read it but verification from you and blackjack was appreciated.

 

[StevenToddIves]

Thank you good sir. I thought it made no sense when. I read it but verification from you and blackjack was appreciated.

Always listen to @Blackjack -- the dude is an absolute ace at finding and processing information.

 

[ZEBROA]

I saw this on twitter and don't no what to make of it. @StevenToddIves I'm bat signaling you when you get a chance.

Some players are fantastic AHL and SHL player but bad NHL players and some better NHL players then SHL and AHL players. I belive Holtz will shine with the bigger challange if getting the trust. He works realy hard.

 

[Blackjack]

Always listen to @Blackjack -- the dude is an absolute ace at finding and processing information.

Only now do I question your judgement.

 

[Guttersniped]

That's a silly tweet. Holtz has been up and down in his draft+1 season, but Mercer has been absolutely dominant -- from the WJC to the QMJHL. It's just not an informed or educated opinion to me, so I have trouble responding to it.

You’d love the results of his modeling, our top three developing young players (Nico doesn’t qualify) are Hughes, Smith, and, uh, Reilly Walsh? Then Mercer and Holtz.
Heh.

 

[Unknown Caller]

That's a silly tweet. Holtz has been up and down in his draft+1 season, but Mercer has been absolutely dominant -- from the WJC to the QMJHL. It's just not an informed or educated opinion to me, so I have trouble responding to it.

His modeling/evaluation is based entirely on comps for the player’s age, height, weight, basic statistical production, and league (similar to NHLe). So there’s no actual subjective analysis that’s going into his opinion. It’s purely statistical modeling.