GDT: 2021 NHL Free Agency & Offseason Thread

[Avsboy]

Whenever Dater starts his tweets with "I think" you can just ignore it

When he says "hearing" or "I hear" you can assume its the meds not working too

 

[letsgoavs1921]

Sakic literally waiting until Wednesday morning to make his best offers to Landeskog and Grubauer.

Uh, that's how you do it

 

[The Abusement Park]

IMO, here's your Gru replacement.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Can we make this thread live? @Frenchy

 

[letsgoavs1921]

What do the analytic stats say about Grubauer vs Andersen? Is Frederik that big of a step down from Grubby? I know he's more prone at letting weak goals every now and then, but what's the difference between that and Grubauer's automatic glove hand down on every shot? I argue that if Avs can win the President's Trophy with Grubs, I think they could do it the same with Andersen in net.

This is my point. I like Gru, he's good. He's not great. He's not worth a Bennington contract, he has literally proved nothing in the playoffs. Last 3 years

Average against the Sharks
Hurt
Awful in final 3 games against Vegas

Sorry, you're worth about $4.5x4 or 5. If you want more see ya. We can find someone that is in the same league as you for less than $4.5/year

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[JH21]

This is my point. I like Gru, he's good. He's not great. He's not worth a Bennington contract, he has literally proved nothing in the playoffs. Last 3 years

Average against the Sharks
Hurt
Awful in final 3 games against Vegas

Sorry, you're worth about $4.5x4 or 5. If you want more see ya. We can find someone that is in the same league as you for less than $4.5/year

He is a good goalie playing behind an excellent defense.

I'm sure a guy like Linus Ulmark would have similar production playing on this team for 2 or 3 million less a year.

Regardless, it's not Grubauer's play which makes me hesitate giving him a long term deal. It's his injury history.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

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Skates like the wind. I could definitely see bargain bin Joe taking a look at him.

 

[The Merchant]

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[letsgoavs1921]

He is a good goalie playing behind an excellent defense.

I'm sure a guy like Linus Ulmark would have similar production playing on this team for 2 or 3 million less a year.

Regardless, it's not Grubauer's play which makes me hesitate giving him a long term deal. It's his injury history.

It's both

And I agree with you. Plenty of average to slightly above average guys we can get on a 3 year $3.5/year deal that will do fine for us. Which is what he has been, fine.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Uh, that's how you do it

Why?

The longer you go, the more their agent is telling them the money trucks are around the corner in UFA.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[The Pwnerer]

Anderson would be an OK option on a short term lower aav contract if we can't come to terms with Grubauer. Anderson played many years under a mediocre defense in Toronto and I would argue his numbers could be just as good as Grubauer with our elite defense and shot suppression. Same goes for Keumper. My concern again is that we are continuing the goalie carousel with no long term solution in sight. If Sakic can somehow make it work for Gibson without including Byram or Newhook, that would be a game changer.

 

[The Abusement Park]

He is a good goalie playing behind an excellent defense.

I'm sure a guy like Linus Ulmark would have similar production playing on this team for 2 or 3 million less a year.

Regardless, it's not Grubauer's play which makes me hesitate giving him a long term deal. It's his injury history.

Yet you want Ullmark?

 

[Cousin Eddie]

“Then there are the free agents. All eyes are on Philipp Grubauer, the man expected to set the market. Talks between Grubauer and the Avs are going down to the wire for the Vezina Trophy finalist. The belief is Colorado is holding firm at 5 years, $25 million. Grubauer’s camp is believed to be seeking a deal north of $6 million.”
- Seravalli

 

[oxenfree]

Losing Grubauer is a one-way ticket to goalie hell, something that will kill this team no matter how good the defense is. It's not like they even have a young up-and-comer to gamble on; Francouz is basically a myth at this point.

There's no one out there that doesn't have worse question marks and warts than Grubauer. Just sign him. Losing him will be much worse than losing Landeskog.

 

[BoxOfChocolates]

Im fine with that. I’d consider 5.5, but that’s about it. Just wonder what the hell their backup plan is.

 

[Richard88]

Skates like the wind. I could definitely see bargain bin Joe taking a look at him.

Your 2021-2022 Colorado Avalanche! *Excitement!*

Athanasiou - MacKinnon - Rantanen
Newhook ------ Kadri ---- Burakovsky
Nichuskin ----- Jost ---- Compher
Ranta ------- Maltsev --- LOC

 

[nightonthesun]

After reading on DNVR that Gabe's camp turned down 7x7, I'm wondering a couple things:

- why do people still think the Avs' best offer was under 6m?

- I don't think his stats or value are inflated by his linemates. He's a proven two way beast and talented enough to put up points in any other sweater. Is it just me or is 7x7 an incredibly fair deal?

- why would Gabe price himself out? It makes no sense. Captain works hard to lead team from the gutter to the top, then asks team for more than they can afford despite a reasonable offer being on the table. He knows full well what the team's up against with regards to the salary cap. I am dying to know what's really going on behind the scenes, because frankly, this is weird.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

“Then there are the free agents. All eyes are on Philipp Grubauer, the man expected to set the market. Talks between Grubauer and the Avs are going down to the wire for the Vezina Trophy finalist. The belief is Colorado is holding firm at 5 years, $25 million. Grubauer’s camp is believed to be seeking a deal north of $6 million.”
- Seravalli

GTFOH.

 

[Avsboy]

Your 2021-2022 Colorado Avalanche! *Excitement!*

Athanasiou - MacKinnon - Rantanen
Newhook ------ Kadri ---- Burakovsky
Nichuskin ----- Jost ---- Compher
Ranta ------- Maltsev --- LOC

This is Bednar's dream. They will bag skate well.

 

[Richard88]

It's both

And I agree with you. Plenty of average to slightly above average guys we can get on a 3 year $3.5/year deal that will do fine for us. Which is what he has been, fine.

Who would you get? Ned and Driedger are gone. Ullmark probably wants more than $3.5m as an ufa

 

[EdAVSfan]

After reading on DNVR that Gabe's camp turned down 7x7, I'm wondering a couple things:

- why do people still think the Avs' best offer was under 6m?

- I don't think his stats or value are inflated by his linemates. He's a proven two way beast and talented enough to put up points in any other sweater. Is it just me or is 7x7 an incredibly fair deal?

- why would Gabe price himself out? It makes no sense. Captain works hard to lead team from the gutter to the top, then asks team for more than they can afford despite a reasonable offer being on the table. He knows full well what the team's up against with regards to the salary cap. I am dying to know what's really going on behind the scenes, because frankly, this is weird.

You’ve got it wrong.

Those who want Landeskog back think Joe’s best offer is less than 6M

Those who don’t want Landeskog back think Joe has offered 7 years and 7 or more M per.