Prospect Info: 2018 NHL Entry Draft Discussion: Final Countdown! Tomorrow is the big day!

[SprDaVE]

Bourne also wrote an article about what to expect from Dubas and the Leafs at the draft. It's pretty good and Bourne is someone that worked with Dubas. Main bullet points from Bourne:

No forwards without a proven offensive track record
The Keaton Middleton era is over
No drafting for depth
They won’t draft for positional need
Goalies are not going to be a priority in draft
No dummies (smarts over skill and skillset)

 

[Green Snow Storm]

Praying Wise falls to 52. Still don’t think it happens.

 

[Scott Malkinson]

Praying Wise falls to 52. Still don’t think it happens.

If we could get Berggren at 25 and Wise at 52, that would be insane.

 

[93LEAFS]

Damn, out at a bar for the England game, so I only glanced at the list. That removes some of my optimism.

 

[93LEAFS]

Bourne also wrote an article about what to expect from Dubas and the Leafs at the draft. It's pretty good and Bournce is someone that worked with Dubas. Main bullet points from Bourne:

No forwards without a proven offensive track record
The Keaton Middleton era is over
No drafting for depth
They won’t draft for positional need
Goalies are not going to be a priority in draft
No dummies (smarts over skill and skillset)

I wonder what the first point means for someone like Denisenko.

 

[SprDaVE]

I wonder what the first point means for someone like Denisenko.

He put up good numbers in the MHL and internationally. I think it's more about overlooking a prospect like DeBrincat (the player he used as an example).

 

[Green Snow Storm]

If we could get Berggren at 25 and Wise at 52, that would be insane.

Would be a tremendous haul considering where we’re picking.

 

[93LEAFS]

He put up good numbers in the MHL and internationally. I think it's more about overlooking a prospect like DeBrincat (the player he used as an example).

Internationally he was great, but only at lower tiered events (due to politics keeping him off the u-18s). MHL numbers are average.

 

[Mikeyg]

Merkley or Woo. Leafs need to keep building that right side of the defense.

And the 2 players you mentioned won’t help that being as they won’t be drafted by us. Open your eyes, those aren’t leafs.

 

[kk87]

Wise at 52 would be unreal. I'd be happy with him at 25... probably isn't too far off from guys like Farabee and even Wahlstrom to be honest.

 

[SprDaVE]

Internationally he was great, but only at lower tiered events (due to politics keeping him off the u-18s). MHL numbers are average.

MHL numbers are pretty good for his age. Pretty sure he's among the better producing draft eligible forwards there... no? I haven't checked though.

Either way, I think the idea is that high end production in their respective leagues won't be overlooked --- this is what Bourne meant.

 

[Liminality]

Any smaller players (not looking at position) who might drop to us at 25?
Ty Smith is way too highly regarded to drop all the way to 25 right?

 

[4thline]

The idea that 25+52 could net us two of Lundestrom/Thomas/Berggren/Wise/Hallander/Wilde/Miller/Lundqvist/Bernard-Docker/Johansson has me super happy

 

[SweLeafsFan]

Cannot wait for the draft to start, this is better than Christmas!

 

[SprDaVE]

The idea that 25+52 could net us two of Lundestrom/Thomas/Berggren/Wise/Hallander/Wilde/Miller/Lundqvist/Bernard-Docker/Johansson has me super happy

Being this late in the draft certainly makes things more exciting. Less about "X or Y player is definitely the BPA". There's such a huge range of players.

 

[kk87]

MHL numbers are pretty good for his age. Pretty sure he's among the better producing draft eligible forwards there... no? I haven't checked though.

Either way, I think the idea is that high end production in their respective leagues won't be overlooked --- this is what Bourne meant.

I really don't know much about him, but he had 22 points in 31 games in the MHL. Meanwhile, Shafigullin scored at about 2 times the rate and is projected to go 2nd round, and there are a handful of other draft eligible players (Rozhkov, Iskhakov, etc) that are expected to go mid to late rounds that scored at a higher rate. Taking Denisenko in the first round seems like a bad idea

 

[SprDaVE]

I really don't know much about him, but he had 22 points in 31 games in the MHL. Meanwhile, Shafigullin scored at about 2 times the rate and is projected to go 2nd round, and there are a handful of other draft eligible players (Rozhkov, Iskhakov, etc) that are expected to go mid to late rounds that scored at a higher rate. Taking Denisenko in the first round seems like a bad idea

He's a big time riser. Could very well go top 40.

 

[Kiwi]

Miller at 24 on McKenzie’s list has me optimistic.

McLeod a #22 was slightly surprising, I'm not super high on him personally

 

[93LEAFS]

McLeod a #22 was slightly surprising, I'm not super high on him personally

Not too big a shock. Great skating and has size. Always someone who will be valued in the draft. And as you know, I’m not a big fan of the McLeod brothers.

 

[HC7]

I can almost guarantee that if Dellandrea is on the board at 25 he's our guy.

Like Miller too, he has potential. He's going to be what Hunter was hoping those big goon D-Men would become.

Still want Merkley though, he's 50/50 but if you get the right 50 he's so insanely good. If Dellandrea is on the board at 25, pick him and make a trade to get Merkley the same way NYI moved up to get Barzal and Ho-Sang.

 

[gregreg]

Wise at 52 would be unreal. I'd be happy with him at 25... probably isn't too far off from guys like Farabee and even Wahlstrom to be honest.

I'm super big on Wise and if we some how got him at 52 I would be jumping up and down with excitement

 

[SprDaVE]

Since it's possible he's a target at #25...

 

[Morgs]

Based on Bob Mackenzie's Rankings:

Pick	1st Choice	2nd Choice	3rd Choice	Honourable Mentions
TOR 1st (25)	Calen Addison	Jonatan Berggren	Akil Thomas	Ryan Merkley, Rasmus Sandin, Nils Lundquist, Alexander Alexeyev
SJ 2nd (52)	Filip Hallander	Jake Wise	Allan McShane	Niklas Nordgren
SJ 3rd (83)	Blade Jenkins	Linus Karlsson	Philipp Kurashev	Marcus Westfalt

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Kiwi]

Not too big a shock. Great skating and has size. Always someone who will be valued in the draft. And as you know, I’m not a big fan of the McLeod brothers.

Going off the black book I can't say I'm a huge fan either

Size skating and skill is a great package but unless your willing to use those tools I don't know what good they are?

He also sounds like he's a winger as well and the soft, big wide turns and no compete, sticks to the outside thing doesn't help

 

[Morgs]

Any smaller players (not looking at position) who might drop to us at 25?
Ty Smith is way too highly regarded to drop all the way to 25 right?

Keep your fingers crossed, I am.